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Chu Shogi pictures. Photos of a commercial Chu Shogi set.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]you could ask him at the bottom of the page, it has two comments, he replied to the first comment.
Chess Variant Pages Membership. Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]you can start a conversation about a topic, or you can make a page, about whatever, you don't have to create a game, check out the alphabetical index and you will see how there are different things posted besides chess variants.
Gryphon Aanca Chess. Large Variant with Gryphons, Aancas, and a few other not-so-common pieces. (12x12, Cells: 144) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Missed this lively convo about these interesting pieces a few years ago. Yes it seems the first appearance of 'Hunter' (forward rook, backward bishop) was from 'Tenkiju Shogi', called 'Multi-General'. I notice though, no mention is made about the first appearance of these pieces in the west. In '100 SQUARES FOR CHESS+DAMANTE' by V.R.Parton, which is from this site too, link here (22 lines from top) .. http://www.chessvariants.org/parton/100Squares.txt 'DECIMAL FALCON-HUNTER (Schulz Chess) The variant of Decimal Chess described in this section is derived from a very original idea due to the imagination of an Austrian player Karl Schulz who invented about 1943 two new kinds of chessmen. The common characteristic of these two pieces, which are named Falcon and Hunter, is that they move forward in a different way to that in which they move backward. The Falcon moves forward diagonally like the Bishop, but moves backward orthogonally like the Rook; it cannot move left or right along its rank.' 'The Hunter moves forward vertically like the Rook, but moves backward diagonally like the Bishop; it has no movement along its rank. These two pieces are complementary and together form a logical couple, being one another opposite or reverse in type of movement.' The article goes on to say about the placement of the pieces, which is on a 10x10 board, with normal queen, rook, knight and bishop and pawns. So this is way before 'ABC Chess'. George Jelliss also mentions these pieces and game by Karl Schulz and the year 1943. So, with these kind of pieces, we have 'hunter' (multi general) and 'falcon', with 'Firehorse' in 'jupiter' and 'typhoon' games of Adrian King, and this game by you Gary is first appearance of 'Noclaf' is it, the 'forward bishop, backward knight' piece? Can we find 'forward knight, backward bishop' and 'forward knight, backward rook' pieces anywhere? EDIT- oh i see Ralph Betza's army 'Forward Fide's' has .. 'Bishight', moves forward as Bishop or backward as Knight, and 'Knishop', moves forward as Knight or backward as Bishop. Can't see 'forward knight, backward rook' still.
Oh yes sorry, i do remember now reading you can only drop one piece per turn, and yes i think it is best to play this way. The game looks really good.
Hey, the sound didn't work for me with your game also. i'll email you about other editions.
I think this looks really interesting. Congrats. I love the idea of drops having to be placed beside the king, and that means also you could do 3 drops on one turn, right? I also like the 'archer' and 'spearman' idea of winning game if reaching other end, combined with rule if they are captured they are out of the game. The short range pieces are great for the game too. When you release, make a game page here please.
Yes you should make it a zip file. When this game set itself up, it put all the files in a folder called 'Qtrungki11'. When i clicked on the zrf, it said it couldn't find 'blach blah blah 'images/Qtrungki'. So i made the 'images/Qtrungki' folders, put all files in there and the game played ok. So i guess you need to address that. I have 'Quang Trung Chess' (10th edition). I really like it, and the board and piece graphics are great. You can download at zillions. I also have the 2nd edition, you can download here at this site. Both these games, the earlier editions, are different in themselves and also to the lastest edition. It would be good to keep them too, are there any other editions that i could download? Not available from your site? It would be good to collect the older verisons, at least the ones that are like different games, or a different look. Ok, i'm a fan :) You should make a game page here for your game too, and i notice with the pages here on some of your past editions, links are broken.
Flying Armies 
. Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]oh, in the last update when i added the 'Ark', i also corrected the graphics for the knight/dabbaba and knight/alfil pieces (they had the old style knight/rook and knight/bishop graphics).
Oops sorry, i forgot to put the 'Ark' in a variant, updated again to do that.
Sky . Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]i've updated this again, i think the Threeleapers on the 2nd rank promoting to a Flamingo was too quick, so only Trippers now on 2nd rank. Diagram below shows this start position.
And Carlos, the 11x11, is interesting, i'll email you about it. The two diagrams you posted in your earlier post are both the same?
Hey Carlos, the diagram doesn't look distorted to me. Well, i'm not sure about your setup, tell me what you think. It's all the Trippers on the back rank. After the Tripper, say on d1, moves to g4, it cannot move forward because the black Tripper on g10 can capture it. And also, the black Tripper on g10 now cannot move. Same with the Tripper on g1, after it moves, it also cannot move forward, because of the black Tripper on d10, which now cannot move too. Surely this cannot be good? The way i have it set up, most pieces cannot come in contact with each other, allowing them to start their journey through promotion. And the ones that can move and attack (only the Fourleapers), the opposing side has this attack defended. I note also, where i had 3 Threeleapers and 2 Fourleapers in opening setup, you have 4 Threeleapes and 1 Fourleaper. Is this intended? It is really minor thing though, because the Commuters do promote to Fourleapers. Anyway, let me know what you think, you have made me look at this more now, and i see something about the opening setup that may need .. fine tunning, curse you, hehe. It is very difficult to get these pieces in perfect opening setup, because of their awkward moves, so painful, but it is worth it, these pieces are rarely seen and hardly a game plays with them having a major role. If you are happy with a setup, i can always make a 2nd 'Carlos Cetina Variant' if you wish.
Flying Armies . Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]I have updated this game, to add 8 extra pieces. Flying Armies plays on a 8x8 board with 'shogi-like' drops. There are many variants with now a total of 48 different pieces showcased. The new pieces added are as follows... Ark .................. rook + alfil (first mentioned 13th century) Alibaba-Slider ...... moves like alibaba but must slide, first square must be vacant. Alibaba-Wazir-Slider ... moves as wazir plus alibaba slider Alibaba-Fers-Slider ... moves as fers plus alibaba slider Lion .................. the 'must jump to move' lion (not shogi lion or murray lion, see Piececlopedia, 'Lion2) Lion is not placed in variant, it is just in the zrf. Dragon .................. knight + pawn Knight-Alfil-Wazir Knight-Dabbaba-Fers
Sky . Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Awhile ago Jeremy Good and Carlos Cetina talked about how there could be flaw in this game because of the piece called the 'Tripper' being able to give check on the 2nd move. Jeremy said 'it might restrict the nature of opening possibilities too much'. I agree with this, so i have updated the game to replace the offending 'Tripper' with a 'Threeleaper', which leaves the game pretty much the same but removing the problem of the 2nd move check. Thanks.
Jester Chess. Large variant, with four new pieces including Jester that imitates opponents last type of move. (10x11, Cells: 110) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]3 forward-adjacent squares means from c3 it would be b4, c4 and d4.
Relativistic Chess. Squares attacked by the opponent are considered not to exist. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Thinking about it again, the knight indeed could move 'again' as a knight, like a nightrider, but for the author not to mention this is bizzare. He is a troublemaker, hehe.
Knight move, i mentioned 3 ways it could move, if you are trying to 'make a path', but of course, there is the way Charles said, being an action, a leap, and that is the way i see a knight move, and it could be that the creator of the game see's the knight moving like this also, therefore, the knight can only make a normal knight move, if legal. I would be surprised if the knight could do a 'nightrider' type of move, though it is possible. especially seeing that it is not mentioned in the rules. If the square a knight could move to does not exist, why should that mean that it can continue on moving again like a knight, wouldn't that mean it has actually 'used' the non-existent square? You would think that if the knight had such a move, or a special way to move, he would of mentioned this type of move. Seeing he did not talk about the knight, one could assume it only can play a normal knight move.
Very interesting game, i have never noticed this before. It appears to me the pawn is checking the King, and also attacking the pawn on a2. It would be good to know what the author says about the Knight. Hans says 'The rules do not state exactly the way knights move. One could assume a knight moves one square orthogonally, and then one square diagonally, skipping again attacked squares.' This is one way to describe the Knight move, but some people describe it as moving 2 squares orthogonally then 1 to the side, or even moving 1 diagonally and 1 orthogonally outward. If you assume it moves like Hans says, then it does appear it is checking the King.
Chinese Chess variant for 7 players. Missing description (19x19, Cells: 361) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Hi all, I dont think there can be much advantage having first move, not with so many armies on such a big board. Yes 'Qin' have the dream start, most space around them, 'Chu' and 'Yan' have next best start. I dont think this gives an advantage though really, because of the nature of multi player games, anyone that is looking stronger than the others will naturally become a target for everyone else, hehe. Interesting pieces 'crossbowman' and 'archer' and 'cavalry'. I dont know if i have seen such pieces before. Also the start position is interesting for 'Qin' in relation to 'Yan' but mostly because of 'Chu' with 'crossbowman'. Oh, do you have link to wiki site, i cant seem to find it. http://chessvariants.wikidot.com/
Archabbott Chess. Introduces the Archabbott piece which moves like Bishop + Wazir + Dabbaba.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]wow, great info there champion, thanks!
Laugh, ok, here are some more.
'Operational Chess' by Andy Thomas, January 2006.
Piece called 'General', leaps 3 squares away, all directions.
Thus, it is a 0,3 and 3,3 leaper, and also can move like the 3,1 Camel and the 3,2 Zebra.
'Scirocco' by Adrian King, 1999, piece called 'Frog'.
Leaps as a (0,3) or (3,3) leaper, plus can move 1 square all directions.
G.P.Jelliss gives these names and movements.
'Frog' {1,1}+{0,3}, 'Toad' {0,2}+{0,3} and 'Newt' {2,2}+{0,3}
Also 'Threeleaper' {0,3}, and 'Tripper' {3,3}.
The 'Threeleaper' and 'Tripper' are in my game 'Sky', under those names.
You can see the 'frog' {1,1}+{0,3} in 'Presiding Chess' by Tucker Kao, 2003.
In 'Quangtrung Chess' by Vu Q, 2002, piece 'Voi' moves like above 'Newt'.
Chess with Different Armies has the 'Half-Duck', steps 1 space diagonally, or jumps 2 or 3 orthogonally.
'The Travelers' by Roberto Lavieri, 2006.
Piece called 'Trey', has non-capture and capture moves, as follows.
Non-capturing: slides 1-3 squares orthogonally or diagonally.
Capturing: can leap 3 squares, 0,3 and 3,3, only to capture.
In 'Jetan', (Martian Chess) by Edgar Rice Burroughs, piece called 'Flier'.
The Flier moves three squares diagonally or in a combination of these diagonal directions. It may jump over intervening pieces.
I do not know of a piece that is a pure 0,3 and 3,3 leaper.
Not saying there isn't one, with so many chess variants and pieces,
just saying i have not seen it, as far as i can recall.The Rook and Alfil piece is a very old piece, called the 'Ark'. First mentioned in the 13th century 'Bonus Socium' manuscript, 1275. Information from V. Nebotov’s Dictionary of Fairy Chess. G.P.Jelliss talks about this piece in Variant Chess 2, April-June, 1990, showing the mate in 2 problem from the manuscript the Ark was in. Rook Alfil Fers is in 'ABC Chess', by Jeff 'Cavebear' Stroud, 2001. You create pieces and 'army2' compounds start with 'rook/alfil/fers' so that piece can be chosen. Bishop Dabbaba is in 'Chess with Different Armies', called 'Bede'.
so, what do we have here, chinese rook that predates chaturanga? if you believe chaturanga date scholars give, hehe. time to rewrite history books? (lol).
Home page of The Chess Variant Pages. Homepage of The Chess Variant Pages.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]yes i've noticed too, i can't comment on many games, can't see where it gives that function. The only reason i could comment before on my 'fairy pieces part 1' was because Jörg commented on the game, and i went in through there. Same way i am commenting here now.
Fairy Pieces Part 1. Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]thanks for info, i will add it soon. i'm glad to hear no 'gross' errors, at the end there everything was getting blurry and rolling into one, it's a wonder really there is no mistakes. Sorry, i know this is overdue for zillion file release. i will update page for when i will release, it will be soon, (this month for sure) but i will add yet one more piece, i found a little more strength to add more, hehe.
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