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Game Reviews by Roberto Lavieri

I think this games is (perhaps more than FIDE-Chess) very sensitive to openings. You can be quickly in clear disadvantage after some weak opening moves. Some care is needed...

That's a good idea. We need a new Page, what about 'Ultima Tips'-?. A good theoretical developement may need tons of material; some of us are moderately experienced players, but I�m sure we are not big authorities,and a theory developed by us may be biased, somewhat primitive and far from exhaustive and water-proof. I can do something about it time to time, I suppose that other experienced players here can do something too: Matthew, Antoine, some others and, generally, everybody who visit TCVP can give us something interesting...

Well, I have tried this game briefly. I have to say it seems better than you can figure at first view. I may be influenced because I always rate good or excellent other progresive variants, but I feel this variant more nice to play.

Very interesting!. Being me, I would put more mirrors, but it is fine as is now,

This game is a classic. It is very difficult to master, due the extreme deepness regardless you can finish a game in very few moves. On purpose of other Italian things, (caugh, caugh), see the sports news.


This game seems to be very strategic, perhaps a bit slow, but it does not affects the fun, this game, as is, seems to be very interesting. My experience with stones is not negative, I like these pieces if you want a less tactical and a more strategical game, but I admit that it can slow the game. I need some tests to evaluate better this game; for a while, a 'good' rating.

It looks very playable at first appearance, and I guess it is a good game, by genetical reasons. What about a ZRF, to see?

To see!. Yes, I think that the ZRF implementation could be challenging. The game itself looks interesting, but I have not had opportunity to make any kind of tests.

I don´t know whether some extensive computer analysis has been done for this game, the branching factor is by far much less than in chess. With the aid of actual technology, it seems to be a good project, perhaps factible, to determine if it its true of false the empirical suspect that the game is a forced win for White.

It seems pretty interesting, although I have not played it yet. Intuitively, I only have doubts about the up-to-four stones on the basis, there are Camels and Zebras in the game, so power should be innecessarily high for a 7x7 game. I have to make some tests to see.

Nice idea, Shogi is great by many reasons, but the relatively low power of many pieces is a special element of interest when there are drops, and Shatranj looks excellent for this purpose too. I have to play it to see how it works. My only observation: I prefer that after a Horse of Troy capture, it changes sides, but its contents are lost, i.e., it transforms to a single Knight.

Hasami Shogi is an interesting game, I don´t know about the origins, but it is very different from Shogi, so the name could be any other not associated with Shogi.There are other similar games. I have read that Mak-yek is played in Siam (and Malaysia under the name Apit-sodok) with the same goal, on the same board, but the 16 stones of each player are placed on the first and third row. The moves are the same, but the capture is custodian and also by intervention. Intervention capture is the opposite of custodian. If a stone moves between two enemy stones, it captures both stones. I have not played these variants, but my intuition says to me that they can be much more violent than HS.

I have not played the game yet, it looks interesting, but I have the first impression that the average number of moves to finish a game would be high, not less than 120 moves. Has anoyone tried this game?.

If you are interested in this popular territorial game and you are encouraged to try a very strong opponent, I suggest the AMAZONG Java applet that you can find at: jenslieberum.de/amazong/amazong.html AMAZONG is perhasp the strongest program playing Amazons now, nevertheless, it can be beated by humans, I have won a couple of times (but I have lost at least ten games against it). I think AMAZONG, under conventional time controls, plays at a level equivalent to 2400-2500 rating, translating it to Chess ELO, but the Java applet only uses a few seconds for each move, so the level is a bit lower, although it is strong enough, I believe not less than 2200. Try it!.

Interesting. I need some tests to take a better idea.


I have tested this game a few times, and I can say it is as good as Grand-Chess, although with a different taste. Yes, the game tendence is to moderately long games, with average of 100-120 moves to finish a good Opulent Chess game, but it does not demerit the game, the game play is very interesting, deep, rich and, yes, it is very strategic. I like it.

I don´t know how many users and members of TCVP have played this great game. I have only seen at brainking.com that Andreas has been an active Amazons player, with a good performance. The best rated Amazons player at brainking is Grim Reaper (Ed Trice) Total score: 269 wins, 17 draws, 0 losses. Impressively good score.


Interesting, I have to play a test game to see details. Mike, I have tested CHESS V vs. ZILLIONS in ULTIMA. The results have shown notorious superiority of CHESS V: 10 to 0 !!!. Chess V plays ULTIMA quite well, Zillions plays it relatively weak, I have not problems to beat Zillions in every game I play against it, but I have troubles to beat CHESS V, I can not do that very often, say, one victory in four games I play against CHESS V, more or less. My estimated ratings in ULTIMA are: CHESS V between 2000-2200 ULTIMA ELO rating (Using FIDE-Chess terminology), and Zillions around 1700, perhaps less. I have not tested the rest of the games.

Many games with a missing central squares can give the players the feeling of a like-Circular-Chess game play. In this case, the pieces used look very interesting, and can add richness and beauty. I have not made tests, but my first subjective impresion is that the game play should be nice. Once I try it (if I have the time to do that, I´ll prepare a primitive ZRF this weekend, it looks relatively easy), the 'good' rating can change, I suspect that this game can be excellent, and my measure is my standard: Game play quality, in my personal opinion, of course.

Some people has critiziced the initial setup. Others think that the Pawns in third rank and majority of bigger pieces in second is not the best idea. I strongly disagree, this game is excellent, and much more: for me, it is one of the best decimal variants ever made. The measures: the beauty, deepness and interest of an average game. Superb.

Good game in a little board, very tactical, although very sensitive to clearly weak moves. I would try a version in 7x7 or 8x8, to see. I suppose the name is nice to hear, because it is in Klingon. The most similar to Klingon I have heard, apart from Star Trek, was a grabation of a mathematical conference by a japanese spokeman, running the grabation in reverse and slow velocity. Many people says it is a difficult-to-learn language. I am not sure, some babies months-aged speak something that can be, very probably, re-directed to Klingon by patient parents.

I am very curious to see the ongoing game in the Courier System, I have not a clear idea about the game play, but I guess it may be very interesting, rich in possibilities, undoubtely deep and ...complex!.

I have played a test game (main variant) against Zillions. I could win after 278 moves, interesting game but really extense, and I think it is not casualty, it is very possible that the game tendence is to last a lot of moves. My opinion is that there are too many pieces, and perhaps the game works better in a slightly smaller board and with less pieces. I have not tried the (included) variant with less pieces, but I am sure the game lenght average is much less in this variant, I´ll try it soon.

A very good (Excellent?) variant of Grand Chess, rich in possibilities, excellent initial set-up and with a smooth game play. I have to test it a few times more, my first experience against Zillions was a very extense game of 140 moves. (Zillions plays it relatively well, but with some ingenuity in position of pieces. Nevertheless, it was a hard-to-win test game)
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