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Shogimon[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sun, Mar 1, 2015 12:13 AM UTC:
Shogimon is one of  Triple Triad's variants.

Dwarven Chess[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Jan 11, 2014 07:08 AM UTC:
Does anyone play an app game called Dwarven Chess?
I found Dwarven Chess in App Store and thank it one of the best chess
variants I ever played.

An old Korean chess book[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Mar 2, 2013 03:01 PM UTC:
http://culturedic.daum.net/dictionary_content.asp?dirView=no&Dictionary_Id=10008774&query=%BB%F3%C8%F1%B5%B5%B9%FD

An old Korean chess book called 象戱圖法(상희도법), said that one kind
of chess called small shogi(소장기=小將棋) have Crossbow(노=弩),
General(장=將), Advisor(사=士), Chariot(차=車), Horses(마=馬),
Cannon(포=砲), and Soldier(보=步), 졸=卒). It mentioned no Elephant.


Li Qingzhao (1084–c. 1151) said there were two Chinese Chess variant:大象戲 and 小象戲 (大小象戲,弈棋,又僅可容二人). But no one understand them.

I think this chess variant mentioned on 象戱圖法 may be 小象戲 in Chinese Chess history.

青空中将棋 Blue Sky Chu Shogi[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Mar 2, 2013 02:54 AM UTC:
http://81dojo.com/news/

This variant of correct name is Open-air Shogi (青空将棋).

Yu Ren Dong wrote on Fri, Mar 1, 2013 04:21 PM UTC:
青空将棋(Open-air Shogi) , a modern Chu Shogi variant, could be
played at 81dojo.com.

See

http://81dojo.com/kifuviewer144.html?kid=310224

http://koshougi.seesaa.net/article/310806950.html

Shatar. Mongolian chess. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Dec 8, 2012 05:18 PM UTC:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shatar&oldid=527046805

I did edit.

Xiangqi Variant in Vietnam[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Mon, Oct 29, 2012 01:13 PM UTC:
http://tuoitrequynhon.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23008

Semedo. Missing description (5x8, Cells: 40) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Sep 1, 2012 01:38 PM UTC:
http://www.shogifdr.ru/lev_kisluk_japanese_game_heroes.htm

ученый

A Korea raditional board game 용호쌍륙 is very like Ashtapada.[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Aug 25, 2012 06:02 AM UTC:
http://www.classfarm.com/study/study_04_03.php?chkValue=&mode=vw&idx=5&page=1&page2=&searchName=&searchValue=

용호쌍륙  Rules in Video.

Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Aug 25, 2012 05:15 AM UTC:
http://chungilfarm.net/cart/data/file/picpic/00375_001.jpg

http://chungilfarm.net/cart/data/file/picpic/00375_008.jpg

Now , I know it is Korean Chess.

Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Aug 25, 2012 05:03 AM UTC:
http://chungilfarm.net/youngcart4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=wood1&wr_id=10
전통놀이셋트..-2


I don't know its name. 


http://www.gababo.com/nori_view.html?thiscode=0201&idx=390

It called 용호쌍륙, meaning Dragon and Tiger Backgammon.

Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Aug 25, 2012 04:46 AM UTC:
In Korea,a traditional board game 용호쌍륙 is very like Ashtapada.

http://chungilfarm.net/youngcart4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=wood1&wr_id=10
전통놀이셋트..-2 

http://www.gababo.com/nori_view.html?thiscode=0201&idx=390

The earliest Chinese Chess piece [Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, May 26, 2012 08:34 AM UTC:
I think this only piece "ä¿¥" was made in Song Dynasty.

For my knowledge, each players' Rook of Chinese Chess  was both written 
as "車" (not "俥") in early  Northern Song Dynasty. Red player  Rook
was written as "ä¿¥" in Southern Song Dynasty in order to distinguish
each player's pieces on single-color printing book.

Shatar. Mongolian chess. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 01:37 PM UTC:
I see. If you need more information, please ask me.

圖嘿 is like that a skillful cat catched a mouse and played it.

Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 06:49 AM UTC:
"I wonder if it includes game scores that illustrate the differences of rules, variations, etc. "

Differences of rules are just mentioned in text. He said there are different checkmate rules in different locations of Mongolia, players must discuss to use which rules before starting. For instant , checkmate by Horse or Camel ,or bare-mate is not allowed in some locations.  

Most pictures are 圖嘿. 

http://truth.bahamut.com.tw/s01/201204/f55cf005eced18ba4e4d00bbc891aa3f.JPG

http://truth.bahamut.com.tw/s01/201204/cc4642f8171262c5934a20bb03de9373.JPG

http://truth.bahamut.com.tw/s01/201204/843a6d833bacf8e42a5fade77fd63000.JPG

Before checkmated by White Camel, Black was under three consecutive Check.
So White got three 圖嘿.


There are two records of old rules game in this book. Author played one in one town of Xilin Gol League in 3/12/1983. In this game, pawn reached the 4st row from the last row to promote to FIDE Queen and Author use Camel to checkmate and got five 圖嘿.

I have written three 圖嘿 in Chinese Wikipedia. 

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%92%99%E5%8F%A4%E8%B1%A1%E6%A3%8B 


"I wonder also if it describes in a more complete fashion the large versions of shatar that I understand are played on 9x9, 10x10, 11x11, 12x12 boards."

Author never mentioned any large variant. I think that Hiashatar may be not appeared in Inner Mongolia. Author lived in Ordos City, Inner Mongolia of China.

If you need this book, I would scan all pages of book for gift.

Yu Ren Dong wrote on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 01:53 PM UTC:
Mr. Ed, I could tell answer.  It is called 圖嘿.


Recently, I got a Shatar book(259 pages). 

http://truth.bahamut.com.tw/s01/201204/d4213e2d4bfdda40a1e769bed6bdba49.JPG

This book's name is 蒙古象棋.

http://trade.taobao.com/trade/detail/tradeSnap.htm?tradeID=162826843521964

This book was wrote by a passed  Mongol man 彭楚克林青, and translated to Chinese by his son.  彭楚克林青 said some old rules in Shatar.

Like


1. Open: There are two kind Open in Shatar.

Chahar Style:Two players must do double initial move with the king’s pawn.

Ujimqin Style:Two players must do double initial move with the Queen’s pawn.



2. Pomotion:

Pawn reaching the last row couldn't  promote. But it could move diagonally backward one step. When Pwan reaches the 4st  row  from the last row, it could only promote to Queen(Called Tiger or Lion).

However,  player could decide another choice, but he must declare when his Pawn reaches the last row.   When Pawn reaches the second  row  from the last row, it could only promote to 半能虎(Half Power Tiger) or called 目車(Eye Chariot). 半能虎 moves like Dragon King in Shogi.


3.  Victory Point:

He also mentioned an old rule called 圖嘿(tuuxəi). I thank tuuxəi  is like Komi on Go.

Player could make enemy left only two pieces(King and another piece) in the end . Then he must make starting check by Chariot or Queen and consecutive Check before chekmate. 

Before checkmate, Number of consecutive Check is Number of 圖嘿.
If player win by common checkmate like Chess, he only got one 圖嘿.


Player usually made enemy left One King and One Pawn for having time to put his pieces to good positions to make consecutive Check.

In this book , author 彭楚克林青 wrote 100 End  for example of 圖嘿. Many 圖嘿 are made end by Pawn's checkmate, few by Camel or Horse.

The earliest Chinese Chess piece [Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Fri, Apr 13, 2012 04:58 PM UTC:
http://www.sach.gov.cn/Portals/0/ZT_2009/gjjl090728/09gjjl09072867.jpg

重慶中國三峽博物館 Chongqing Zhongguo Sanxia Bowuguan

Yu Ren Dong wrote on Fri, Apr 13, 2012 04:55 PM UTC:
http://www.sach.gov.cn/tabid/985/InfoID/20301/Default.aspx

http://www.sach.gov.cn/Portals/0/ZT_2009/0907147004.jpg

The earliest Chinese Chess piece "Rook"  is found in Chongqing and said
made during Jin Dynasty (265–420).

Russian Chess. Pieces are not removed when captured, but stacked. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sun, Feb 5, 2012 05:35 AM UTC:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%88%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B

Wiki

Shatra A game information page
. Old game from the Altai from Russia, on special shaped board with draughts-like capture.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Feb 4, 2012 05:08 PM UTC:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%88%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B8_%28%D1%88%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%29

Wiki

Janggi - 장기 - Korean Chess. The variant of chess played in Korea. (9x10, Cells: 90) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Mon, Oct 3, 2011 02:27 PM UTC:
Hello Fergus Duniho. 

Please e-mail to Mr. Song(宋). He is  Korean in Japan.

song@m2.dion.ne.jp

Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Oct 1, 2011 03:24 AM UTC:
In Changgi Association Tokyo Branch Rules, A Pawn must promote on reaching the 10th rank. A Pawn can promote only to a friendly piece (except for Guards
) that has been captured, and for which it is exchanged. 

Please See

http://www.h2.dion.ne.jp/~janggi/tokyo%20new%20local%20rule.html

Shatar. Mongolian chess. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Sep 17, 2011 02:41 AM UTC:
The Pawn (Chu) does not have a double initial step, with the exception of
the pawn before the queen. 

The first move pawn as  a double initial step  is obligatory, but White
player would choose  the pawn before the queen or king:

1. If White choose the pawn before the queen, Black must also choose the
pawn before the queen.

2. If White choose the pawn before the King, Black must also choose the
pawn before the King.

Please see

http://www.nmgqipai.com/mengguxiangqi/mengguzuchuantongtiyu-mengguxiangqi.html

Gess. A Chess variant played on a Go board where pieces are collections of go stones. (18x18, Cells: 324) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sat, Jul 24, 2010 12:58 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
One of the best meta chess variants.

Modern drunk elephant shogi. Missing description (9x9, Cells: 81) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sun, Jul 11, 2010 06:02 PM UTC:
You are welcome.

The detailed rules are still unknown.

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