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I was comparing these on both my iPad and my Likebook Mars ereader, and on the latter, they all appear as grey on a black background. From the Thaumaturge on down, there are sharp contrasts between different shades of grey that look kind of random and ugly. I’m not sure if the horse shape of the first few pieces just leads to a more pleasing shading or if you did something different in the pieces following them, though I suspect it is the shape that makes the difference.
I also face this problem and cannot submit new pages…)
I wasn’t expecting either of you to change the color of your pieces. I envision the logo as having a white piece supplied by you and a blue piece supplied by Bob.
Additionally, I just looked at these pieces on my Likebook Mars, and they fade into the background too much on it.
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@Bob: I have used this on-line viewer which is working very nice. I recommend, you can easily change the background, the color of the piece, the size of the snapshot, etc.
Here the images you asked Fergus. The blue might be too saturated.
@ Fergus: I have made images of some of my 3D pieces in blue on black background. I wished to upload the images but I lack space to do it. So I wanted to create a fake page named "Cazaux Vault" to get some room where to upload but I get this message:
"As a veteran contributor with nine or more submissions published so far, you are limited to submitting nine of your games for review and publication at a time. If you would like to post more, cooperate with the editors to get your submissions accepted, or revert something to a work-in-progress and submit something else."
What is this? I don't have 9 games in waiting!?
Does that mean I cannot create any new page?
In general, I try to associate a visual with a movement whatever the game in jocly. I don't know if it's the same for everyone, but I have to adapt a lot when the movements of a known piece change. That's why I used the trident that had been envisaged for the whale in chu shogi. I realized that the movement differed from that of the whale in chu shogi when I was making the documentation, and it seemed preferable to me to avoid confusion.
It would be interesting to add mnemomic sprites as an alternative. I don't know if you'd be interested in making such a file.
Here's an SVG seireigi set if you want to test the creation of a physical game. Example in plywood (compact / cheap and quick to make but rather simple), the color code for laser cutter is red/cutting, blue engraving recto, yellow engraving verso.
Here's a link to the jocly seireigi and hectochess implementations. It would require to code evaluation function to improve the level of the engine which still needs to be done, and will probably require some expertise. Personally, I don't mind the computer being beatable.
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Hold off on that Midnighter; I need to update it with better wings.
Here are the requested pieces (some are overwritten from before, so you may need to flush the cache):
I'd suggest using only one Knight variant and only one moon-topped piece in the lineup; offhand I'd choose the Midnighter and Thaumaturge.
And a few others, sorted roughly in order of importance to include (as I see things, anyway):
I miscounted; I should have said C2. Or, perhaps, vC2sCC.
Camelopards CC
is already C3
.
afK
doesn't add any movement in mScK4
but without it, the target square always appears green when there are no pieces there even though it can capture if there are pieces there.
N-Relay Chess & Sort of Almost Chess.
Jojo Chess by Pikazilla
I meant a blue piece on a black background.
Ah, OK. I'll do that with all of the pieces you asked for (plus a couple others) this evening. (Right now it's time for me to log off for a while.)
Mostly Jean-Louis, since mine's (still) broken.
I meant a blue piece on a black background.
I would add another criteria: the 3D piece which is represented should be realistically 3D-printable and not too fragile.
I would presume that anyone who makes 3D pieces is already keeping that one in mind. Since I don't have a 3D printer to test pieces with myself, I will leave it up to you and Bob to judge whether your pieces fit this criterion.
OK, well, here's my shot at a Nightrider image. If this works for you, I'll get to others tonight and/or tomorrow.
So, should I use #0000FF or another shade of blue?
Whatever you have been using is fine, or you could use the same color as the Alfaerie pieces use, which is #5984BD.
I was thinking, in keeping with the row of figures across the bottom of the Light-themed logo, to make the pieces different colors (nothing outrageous; mainly ivory, tan, grey, muted red, that sort of thing that you might see in an actual chess set).
While the Darker scheme can be used on monitors, tablets, and phones, I designed it mainly for monochrome eink displays, and my Likebook Mars eink device renders red as black. So colors with mostly red will not work out well on that or similar devices. Since blue is used for the Alfaerie pieces and shows up well on my Likebook Mars, I figured it would be a good choice.
I figure to leave any resizing and cropping to your (probably more capable) hands.
I suppose if I resize it against a black background, it will look fine.
I'm opening the STL files in Paint 3D. Using the 3D view, make the canvas visible and expand it to 8000x6000, and it can be any color desired with the paintcan "fill" function (as can the piece itself).
@Bob: which viewer or software do you use to get those images? Blender? or something else, maybe more friendly?
I agree with your 2) and 3), especially 3). Unfortunately I never made any Nightrider so far. This because I don't like leaper-runners which are difficult to predict on board. But I might do one, one day, as well as the Grasshopper.
I would add another criteria: the 3D piece which is represented should be realistically 3D-printable and not too fragile.
This is for the Darker color scheme, which has a black background. Blue will be fine, since it shows up well against black, and it contrasts with another piece being white.
So, should I use #0000FF or another shade of blue?
I was thinking, in keeping with the row of figures across the bottom of the Light-themed logo, to make the pieces different colors (nothing outrageous; mainly ivory, tan, grey, muted red, that sort of thing that you might see in an actual chess set).
I figure to leave any resizing and cropping to your (probably more capable) hands.
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That worked
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Looks like you fixed everything, save for the hand spaces of course, but I won't bother you on that too much until you are ready to test the solution.
I would at least like the ones for Hectochess and Seireigi. Ideally, the files should be placed in such a way so that I know which files go where.
You may include Chu Seireigi if you wish, but I am doing one last update to make it easier to defend against a Lion:
- Renaming Prancing Stag to Old Kite (FsW), which promotes to Prancing Stag (fBsRvW)
- Strong Bear moving the same as Chu Shogi Drunk Elephant
I had your Jocly implementation play out several games, and even though it played rather poorly (for obvious reasons), it was clear that there needed to be more defense.
P. S. I'm surprised you changed the Whale's symbol to a trident. I guess it makes sense if you take into account Greek mythology. I think the whale tail symbol you used before would look more accurate, but it really comes down to personal preference here.
I think I fixed the conditional. So try it again.
I'm trying to change the visibility of this page to members-only from private, but it says "you are limited to submitting nine of your games for review and publication at a time" and fails even though I only see that I have two submissions for review. Is the submissions for review page not showing everything?
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@ HG: Yes, it seems that the problem is 100% solved. Thank you very much.
This is for the Darker color scheme, which has a black background. Blue will be fine, since it shows up well against black, and it contrasts with another piece being white. The tallest piece in the Dark scheme's logo is 427, and the height of the logo is 432. Without the pieces, the text part of the logo has a height of 415. If I do like I did with the Light logo, a piece height of 285 would work.
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I wasn't sure what you'd want/be able to use as far as piece and background colors, so I just played with it a little. I can change them as desired.
Here's the Midnighter and Thaumaturge, for starters.
And I still do like my Phoenix.
I'll get the others you asked about later in the day, once I know your color preferences (other than being careful with reds).
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Let's try the cannon, the chancellor, the dragon king, and the phoenix.
The main reasons I'm interested in a Nightrider are that (1) it fits a nocturnal theme, (2) it resembles a regular Chess piece enough that someone could recognize it as a Chess variant piece if they saw it out of context, and (3) it is one of the better known fairy chess pieces. Some other pieces of yours that might work for the first two reasons are Midnighter, Moonrider, Thaumaturge, and Luna Pawn. So I would be interested in seeing these with a neutral background too.
276. Grand Vizier. This is yet another intereseting piece from Robert Shimmin's game Scheherazade. It can step to any adjacent space, or leap (1,3) or (2,2). (KAC)
I rather like this piece for slightly-large boards such as the 12x12 one shown here.
This is yet another model that I made after studying historical pictures. I may need to accentuate the sash more, but on the whole I think it came out OK.
My Nightrider and Bodyguard, as promised:
Since Lev mentioned them, the Zip and Torch:
And, just for giggles, my Grandmaster Mage and Anvil:
I can set about making the neutral-background pieces just about any color you want, if there's a preference. I'll assume want just the first two unless you say otherwise (though I may do them all just for the heck of it).
Random Pocket Omega
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Maybe Archbishop and (sorry but I just suggest) my Zip or (better) Torch?
Both these my pieces have 3D models made by Bob.
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I think I've corrected the bugs you mentionned.
If HGM has the time and the possibility to add the parametrisation of the hand space in the drop model, of course I'll use it, but I don't know if it's that easy to do.
I can share a zip if you want, with these 3 compiled games (Hectochess/Seireigi/Chu Seireigi)?
@ Fergus: I can make an image of any 3D piece without any background. Just tell me which one from here if you want to make a test:
https://www.chessvariants.com/craft/a-catalog-of-3d-printable-chess-variant-pieces
Of course, that can be done with Bob's pieces as well.
I do have a Nightrider, though given a choice my favorite piece that I've designed has been a Bodyguard.
I'll link the Thingiverse images of both tomorrow morning, and probably make neutral-background images as well.
That's a fair point.
Another option would be to allow the Aviaancas an ifA, and/or the Half-Ducks iffN (or iffN2).
Overall, though, I think your better bet would be to change the Giraffes' CC to C3.
I'm thinking of making a logo specifically for the Darker color scheme using piece designs for 3D printers. However, I want to use images without a background behind them, and I think it would be appropriate to include a Nightrider, though it doesn't look like anyone has made one. Since Bob Greenwade and Jean-Louis Cazaux are the most active in making such pieces, one piece from each might be appropriate. What ideas do you guys have?
Wouldn't that be a free Pawn? The initial setup is like this because this game was inspired by Grande Acedrex, I also like Camelopards starting on file d & i because there they protect each other.
With shuffle.
Since it's never appeared in any published version of Clue, no, I haven't.
For an eighth weapon, have you considered a blowgun?
Thanks. Hopefully we can also upload your implementations of Hectochess and Seireigi to the site soon.
I have tested the new moves and will update you on bugs to be fixed. Here are the errors I found as of the writing of this comment.
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Piece Movement/Promotion Errors
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Whale is missing its backward slide
White Golden Bird is missing its sideways orthogonal leaps
For some reason Flying Swallows that are dropped from the hand (not the ones present initially) have their move reversed
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As for the trouble with the hand spaces, maybe ask H. G. Muller about that? He is the one who made the original model if I remember correctly. It shouldn't be that hard for him to figure something out.
As far as I can tell, you should only need a second column of hand spaces on each side, but of course, it's probably not as simple as I am making it out to be.
If that's in reference to your Bullet, I've been thinking about that. Like today's Yey, it'd be an interesting Pawn or Superpawn type piece.
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@ Fergus: well, it's a bit your fault Fergus. You asked both Bob and me and then it was not possible to understand that you were not speaking to both of us. About the color, I first understood that you wanted pieces on a blue background, so did Bob, then that you wanted blue pieces on a black background. If you prefer white pieces on a black background it is not a problem at all.
Actually, there is something VERY simple to do, a piece of cake for you. You go to:
https://www.thingiverse.com/kazo65/designs
There you can download the .stl of the piece you would like.
Then you open that .stl with:
https://3dviewer.net/
And you can have a snapshot of that piece with the color you like, the background you like, the orientation you like, the size you like, etc.
If you can't do that and need help, please tell me exactly which piece/color/background you would like, I will make it for you.