Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Anonymous wrote on Wed, Aug 3, 2005 06:33 AM UTC:When I was IQ-tested in 8th grade, I was told my IQ was 133. I was in the honors class of a highly competitive academic highschool for 4 years; was in the math and chess clubs, and was one of the 3 best players in the school, all of us about equal. The school was test-happy. I got 75 report cards in those 4 years, and 12 sets of final exams. I read amazing amounts of science fiction and science, played a range of card and board games from easy to hard, from Stratego to complex military simulations. I took the SATs and more tests to get into college. Got a full scholarship to a minor ivy league type of school. Once, in the dean's office, I got a chance to peek at my record and saw my IQ score - 157. The college was trying to burnish its image then, so it pushed the students hard. I got 1400 on my college boards, and when I took the GREs, expected a drop of about 100 points in my score, which our guidance people told us was the average change in scores. Instead, I got 1540 on the GREs, an increase of 140, and was the first one done on 2 of the 3 math sections in the morning - 3 because they were testing a new math section. I suspect any IQ test I took then would have shown over 160. I just don't know what it means, how valid IQ test are in general, and specifically, how accurate my tests were, as I was basically educated in how to take a very wide range of tests ever since 5th grade, when Sister Mary Ruler II gave us 3 quizzes a day, a science, history and geography test every single day of 5th grade. I believe I got very good at taking tests, and chess, and some other rather non-marketable skills, mostly in gaming-related fields. Is an IQ increase of at least about 20% minimum, 18% demonstrated between IQ tests 1 & 2 alone, with a reasonable expectation of a 165 as a fairly conservative final figure, something everyone could do? This 165 figure would be an increase of 25%, not unreasonable from the figures given. How much of the increase is 'real', and how much is 'just training', or does the training merely contribute to a 'real' increase in IQ? Chess here is just part of a kind of mental development program. Its significance may be its presence as an indicator of a developing mind, or, at best, an indication that the mind is enjoying some, at least, of its development, and thus may be expected to try to actively continue such development. Finally, what does it mean to be able to increase an IQ score by about 30 points, say? What sort of changes would be expected in people who do this? Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID Smarter? does not match any item.