Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Roberto Lavieri wrote on Thu, Oct 20, 2005 03:21 PM UTC:K-B-N vs. K : I have read that the maximum number of moves needed is 33, but the sequence must be extremely precise, an slight error can be enough for surpasing the 50th. move, so it is difficult win the game in every case. I have also read an old article that K-Q vs. K-R is a victory for the superior band in at most 36-40 moves, but the analysis is too complicated, even with computers, to be enterely sure, by cause of the high branching factor...And the article conclusion was based on a particular strategy by part of the K-R team. It is also certain that slight errors are enough for a draw by the 50 moves rule, playing under optimal defensive sequence. In the game Svidler-Gelfand 2001 world championship eliminatories, Svidler commited a slight error, but also Gelfand essayed a novel strategy, with the Rook close to his King amost all the time as theory suggests, but moving the Rook sometimes far from his King to precise squares in very precise moments. By curiosity, I made an experiment with Chessmaster 9000 playing against itself, with a far-from-trivial initial position I have found in Internet. The result: draw, by the 50 moves rule. This is not a conclusive remark, but may be an indicative of the difficulties for the superior band. This problem is a good exercise to be tested using high-level programs running on powerful computers. Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID sawyer does not match any item.