Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To M Winther wrote on Thu, Apr 27, 2006 09:09 AM UTC:Are you sure that you got this right? The Mammoth (Mastodon) *jumps* one or two steps diagonally or orthogonally. It cannot be as valuable as 6.8. Those evaluation systems don't work because they don't take into account how pieces *relate* to each other. Nor does the simple counting of squares work, i.e., its factual power, because it doesn't take into account that the Mammoth has to flee to every threat and cannot strike back. For instance, if a rook is threatened by a queen it can strike back on the orthogonals. The Archbishop can strike back against a threatening bishop, queen, or knight, but a Mammoth must generally back off before any threat. I argue that the Archbishop must be clearly more valuable than the Mammoth. The Mammoth seems ideal for testing the reliability of evaluation systems. Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID The Mammoth does not match any item.