Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To H. G. Muller wrote on Fri, Oct 10, 2008 04:49 PM UTC:Yes, I understand what you meant by FEN for movement, but it sounds rediculous. Especially since there are already plenty of standards for move notation (with limited scope, e.g. Chess), that do have sensibla names. Like SAN = Standard Algebraic Notation. I understand that you don't mind that the mve notation would make use of knowledge of the rules of the variant. This does imply that the same move could have different notation in different variants (because in one variant the move would need extra info to disambiguate it, while in others it would not (e.g. promotion to Q in Shatranj, if Ferz is represented by Q, would be implied, while in Chess there woud be a choice.) I am not sure if you could call something a universal standard if it would need knowledge of the rules of the variant to define the meaning. If it was allowed to draw on the rules of the variant, such a system is likely to degenerate to the union of the most-convenient notations for each variant. In Chess an Alfil jumps without capturing the piece it jumps over, in checkers a jump implies a capture. I guess the most important part of the standard would not be how you can describe mutations to th board, but in stead when you have to do it, and when you have to omit it. If you would indicate a drop with '@', as in SAN (e.g. N@e4), in Go the fact the piece type as well as the fact that it is a drop would be implied, and there would no reason to include tem in the notation. So Go moves simply become the indicator for the cell where you drop, everything else could be implied. If it is allowedto use knowledge about the game when interpreting the moves, the need for many delimters disappears. Why separate the FromSquare and ToSquare by a hyphen? You could simply concatenate the square coordinates if it their syntax is known. a character behind that could indicate the new state of the target cell, if different from the state of the source cell 9as with promotions). Only non-implied side-effects would hav to be described. e1g1 would still be a perfect notaton for castling, as the Rook move is fully implied by it. Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID Standards does not match any item.