Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Joe Joyce wrote on Mon, Nov 3, 2008 01:28 PM UTC:George, on the Black Ghost, I'm afraid I have to out-conservative you on this one. I have specific criteria I judge games on, and both mode of movement/capture and 'feel' of game are very important to me. To me, Black Ghost, in any variation, fails on both counts, as a next chess. I truly feel that one of the key features of *chess* is that all pieces capture, by replacement, the way they move. That is a very basic part of the 'feel' of the game. Play any of the Ultima family of variants, and you get a different feel. Maybe this expresses it a little: chess is a war game, Ultima isn't. Chess is a power game, Ultima is an influence game, if you will. This is not to say that the idea or the game is bad. It's just that I think the discussion should lean very strongly toward rock-hard hidebound conservatism. I'm assuming, for this argument, that orthochess players are terrified of change, afraid of new pieces, and unwilling to think outside the board. While this may not be a totally fair characterization of the people, the consensus here seems to be that it is a fair characterization of the general attitude. Fergus is quite right when he talks of 'baby steps' to change. And maybe 1 in 100 might take that baby step. I look at this discussion as finding those people a comfortable place to land after a wobbly baby step or two. Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID NextChess2 does not match any item.