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Trouble making submissions[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Kevin Pacey wrote on Thu, Jan 7, 2016 01:16 AM UTC:
Fergus wrote: "Please let me know if you can edit your submission. I'm not
familiar with whether this can be done, but I think it should be allowed."

I added a couple of letters to the text of it successfully, so the answer
appears to be that I can indeed edit it.

In case you missed it, I slightly edited my previous comment, to elaborate
on troubles for me that may or may not be caused by having an inadequate
browser, as far as viewing and using this website goes. So far it seems I
can get by (I prefer not to try to change browsers for now), although just
now I looked at some games to see if I could unfavourite them, and in many
cases the top menu of such a game's webpage appeared vertical in presenting
the options. Not only that, but in some such cases I previously favourited
these games by listing all its comments, i.e. getting to a webpage where
the menu options happened to be presented horizontally. Now, even when that
happens still, I don't see any way available by way of a heart option to
favourite or unfavorite a particular game. Luckily this is not a priority
to fix, but I thought I'd mention it in case you were unaware.

Kevin Pacey wrote on Thu, Jan 7, 2016 02:27 AM UTC:
Hi Fergus

I'm using a laptop (it's the only computer available to me at home
currently, nor do I use a mobile device). Here's a sample URL (if I
understand that phrase right) from The Chess Variant Pages which produces a
vertical menu of options on my laptop:

http://www.chessvariants.com/dpieces.dir/berlin.html

Kevin Pacey wrote on Thu, Jan 7, 2016 03:36 AM UTC:
Just now I submitted "5*4DChess (four dimensional chess)" to The Chess
Variants Pages, and after I hit "Submit" a new webpage with that game's
title showed up, but the page appeared to be empty otherwise (same story
when I checked it under the webpage "Your Unreviewed Submissions"). :(

If the webpage is indeed empty, could an editor please delete it, and after the new problem with making submissions is solved, I'll hope to resubmit it under the same title eventually.

Super4*Chess (four dimensional chess). Four dimensional chess variant played with 96 pieces. (4x(4x(4x4)), Cells: 256) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Thu, Jan 7, 2016 04:59 AM UTC:
At the moment I can't figure out how to show individual pieces as I think you wish, Fergus. I copied the URL for a Black Rocket (I used the Rocket symbol [from the set Abstract Pieces: All] to represent a Balloon in my variant). I did so from the Diagram Designer, as the instructions on it seemed to indicate I should do, but as you may notice, only the text of the URL shows up on my submission (I don't know how to highlight a URL in blue, but I would think that would not suffice for you either). Cutting and pasting the image for a Black Rocket, as I tried earlier, showed nothing in the text at all. Saving the picture as BRocket.gif as a file and then typing BRocket.gif only showed those very words as text, too.

If I can't ever get how to do it, would listing the squares that pieces are on, under the Diagram Designer diagram, be okay instead? Others have done that with 4D variant submissions in the past, I've noticed.

Trouble making submissions[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Kevin Pacey wrote on Thu, Jan 7, 2016 04:05 PM UTC:
Fergus wrote:

"The menu on http://www.chessvariants.com/dpieces.dir/berlin.html is
appearing horizontally to me. So it's not an instance of the wrong header
being used. Can you provide a screen shot of what you're seeing to help me
better gauge what's going on?"

Like I've alluded to before, I'm rather out of my depth these days when it
comes to computers. However, with some luck I did manage to create a
screenshot icon (shortcut) on my desktop of the Berolina Pawns variant
webpage, and then I emailed it to your address as webmaster of this
website. Hope that suffices.

If you can get around to it, in the event you missed it, I replied to your
comment re: my Super4*Chess submission needing to be edited, and I asked if
you could advise me (such as perhaps only clarifying that I in fact may
have taken a step in the right direction). It's not a priority though, as I
am going to be playing over-the-board chess all weekend, including tonight
at my club, as well as Friday night, so I'll soon begin a long break from
using a computer to visit here, or to visit other websites I go to, until
the weekend is over, if only for the reason to concentrate better on
playing chess.

Take care, Kevin

Kevin Pacey wrote on Thu, Jan 7, 2016 05:01 PM UTC:
I've just emailed you again. Neither email has bounced back at my end of
things so far, at least.

Super4*Chess (four dimensional chess). Four dimensional chess variant played with 96 pieces. (4x(4x(4x4)), Cells: 256) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Thu, Jan 7, 2016 07:55 PM UTC:
Out of a sudden inspiration, I tried using the Diagram Designer to make just a 1x1 (square) board for displaying each single piece type used in my variant (Super4*Chess), then cut & pasted the diagrams (as I generated each of them) into the piece descriptions. Hope this is adequate, as far as editing my submission goes.

Trouble making submissions[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Kevin Pacey wrote on Thu, Jan 7, 2016 08:01 PM UTC:
Earlier I posted (directed to Fergus):

"...If you can get around to it, in the event you missed it, I replied to
your comment re: my Super4*Chess submission needing to be edited, and I
asked if you could advise me..."

I may have solved my problem in question on my own. Under comments to my
submission in question, I've just posted:

"Out of a sudden inspiration, I tried using the Diagram Designer to make
just a 1x1 (square) board for displaying each single piece type used in my
variant (Super4*Chess); I then cut & pasted the diagrams (as I generated
each of them) into the piece descriptions. Hope this is adequate, as far as
editing my submission goes."

Kevin Pacey wrote on Fri, Jan 8, 2016 07:50 AM UTC:
I'm up way too late, but I couldn't resist checking this website at least
one last time.

Fergus wrote: "That's one way to do it, though it's not the easiest. This
shows that you know how to include an image on a page. The easier way to do
it is to copy the URL for each image from the Diagram Designer and use
that. The images are displayed around the board. You can get the URL for an
image by right-clicking it and selecting the appropriate option from the
right-click menu. 

For Internet Explorer, this is "Copy". 

... This will put the URL for the image in your clipboard, and from there,
you can paste it into your document."

I use Internet Explorer on my laptop (or desktop computer, when it is
working), and I did try copying it the way you described, Fergus. My
mistake was that I tried to 'paste' straight away, and nothing showed up at
all in my submission. I hadn't realized a 'clipboard' was to be involved.
I'll try to get around to looking up how a clipboard is used again, and try
to do such piece depictions as you described, if there isn't something
easier available (like later on cutting and pasting the work I've already
done when editing Super4*Chess).

Back in the 1990s when computers and the internet were apparently really
taking off, a condition I've had probably most of my life really took off
too (e.g. having visions once in a while), and as a result generally I've
tried to not experiment (nor use computers) too much. For example if
there's a way to do something with a computer that I know works I'll use
it, even if it may cost me just a little bit more time. Finding the time to
try to undo the consequenses of an apparently harmless experiment gone
wrong when using a computer is something I developed a sort of aversion to
years ago.

Kevin Pacey wrote on Fri, Jan 8, 2016 05:40 PM UTC:
I still have a couple of hours before I have to get busy today with other
things. As I alluded to earlier, H.G., when I copied & then tried to paste
the piece symbol as described, literally no text or image appeared in my
submission (i.e. nothing happened whatsoever after I tried to paste).

Instead, one thing I tried after was to save the webpage for the piece
symbol as one of my 'Favourites' (another option besides 'Copy' that is
allowed when one right-clicks on such a piece symbol). Then, in actually
going to that webpage on the web, I did see the piece symbol in question
displayed, in the upper left corner of an otherwise blank webpage. Anyway,
I then pasted that http address for that webpage into my submission, but
then when I viewed it by re-submitting my submission, all that appeared (of
course, I suppose) was the text of the http address (kind of similar to
what you were describing for something else). 

Maybe there was somthing I could have done with the http address that I  inserted in my submission, e.g. something kind of similar to what
you were describing. After giving up perhaps prematurely, the next day I
had my 1x1 board (including piece symbol) representation inspiration for using the
Diagram Designer, and I eagerly took the sure route to
success, much like a baseball infielder takes the sure throw out to first
base, rather than trying to throw out a base runner by throwing to second
base. Anyway, the fact that my original copy and paste attempt produced
absolutely nothing (such as text) in my submission suggests to me that
there may in fact be a bug with, say, the Diagram Designer, unless I did
something wrong in copying & pasting (in this case, seems hardly possible).

Kevin Pacey wrote on Sun, Jan 10, 2016 02:54 AM UTC:
I got home early today from my weekend tournament, and having taken care of
other things at home I thought I'd check my email & various websites
tonight at least one time each all the same. That's after getting my
inevitable game with GM Sambuev out of the way today (I lost respectably
IMHO, getting ground down in a major piece ending after trying to hold a
draw with the Petroff Defence).

I got your email from today Fergus, and I sent the screenshot (of the
Berolina Pawns webpage) to your other email address just now, as you
suggested I try instead.


H.G. Posted: "And did you copy the image or the location of the image? You
cannot paste an image in a text form, so if you copied the image instead of
its location (URL), then it would explain why nothing appeared"

Yes, apparently in my innocence I tried to just paste the image. The only
URL I noticed for it was after I saved it as a webpage Favourite, rather
than just clicking on 'Copy' (after right-clicking on the image of the
piece symbol).

4*Chess (four dimensional chess). Four dimensional chess using sixteen 4x4 boards & 96 pieces. (4x(4x(4x4)), Cells: 256) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Sun, Jan 10, 2016 03:14 AM UTC:
A belated thank you to Fergus for your considerable work on your example (for me) of a 4D variant diagram generated by the Diagram Designer (I may have been pretty tired that day). I'll try to eventually get around to various edits to some of my past submissions that were accepted, e.g. to show definite Abstract: All piece set Centaur piece symbols in diagrams for my Sac Chess entry.

Trouble making submissions[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Jan 11, 2016 11:51 PM UTC:
I'm back and rested after my weekend tournament, finishing clear second at
1.5 points behind GM Sambuev (5/5, again), so I did about as well as I
could reasonably hope for.

H.G. posted: "In my browser (Firefox) when I right-click on an image it
pops up a menu with (amongst others) the items
 • View image 
• Copy image 
• Copy image location 
• Properties 
When you select "View image" it displays the image as a separate web page,
with the URL of the image (as usual) in the address field above it. You
could then select and copy the URL from there. But when you select "Copy
image location" it should already have copied the URL without additional
mouse manipulations, and without the need for changing what page it was
displaying. With "Properties" you get a popup window with all kinds of info
on the image, and one of them is the URL. You could also copy that URL from
there."

At the moment I'm using a Toshiba Satellite laptop with Vista, Windows
Explorer browser (clicking on its properties reveals it to be created Sept.
2009). When I right-click on a piece image of the Diagram Designer, the
options I can choose to further click on unfortunately do not include View
Image or Copy Image or Copy Image Location, but the options available to me
do include "Copy" and "Properties". Clicking on Properties does reveal the
URL (the same one as if I had clicked on "Save to Favourites" instead of
"Properties", I suppose). 

I'm not sure using this URL (in the way you described in an earlier post)
would save me much time (if at all) compared to doing it my way (i.e. by
copying Diagram Designer HTML code for a piece on a 1x1 board), that is if
needing to over and over insert more than one piece image (of more than 1 piece type, even) to be shown into
a Chess Variant Pages webpage submission. However, doing it your way could
show a clean/nicer piece image, in that my way of doing it shows the 1x1
square board with a coordinate included (namely "a1", with the "a"
unfortunately partly not showing because the board is so small, I assume).
Perhaps the choice is a matter of taste?! In any case I may try doing it
the way you described at some point, H.G. Thanks for your advice.

[edit: I tried do it H.G.'s way just now when editing my old 4*Chess submission, but nothing appeared at all when I used quotes around the URL, or when I did not use quotes. I had followed H.G.'s earlier directions, unless I somehow went wrong (I may try H.G.'s method later if I can figure it out, pending any further thoughts); the directions posted earlier were:

"To get an image on a submitted page you would have to write 

< img src="URL"> 

in it, with URL the pasted URL."]

[2nd edit: I solved my problem using H.G.'s method (to show single piece images from the Diagram Designer in a submission) by using quotes around the URL & using uppercase for IMG SRC, in a test I carried out. The piece image I chose to test out (in a submission, temporarily modifying it by editing) was shown all by itself, underlined as in the Diagram Designer.
Note that I put this 2nd edit accidently in my 4*Chess submission thread too.]

4*Chess (four dimensional chess). Four dimensional chess using sixteen 4x4 boards & 96 pieces. (4x(4x(4x4)), Cells: 256) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Jan 12, 2016 01:26 AM UTC:
I've now removed an unwanted primitive diagram from my 4*Chess submission, and showed piece images in the piece descriptions instead. I've also edited my Sac Chess submission diagrams to show proper Centaur symbols (for what I called "Judges").

💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Jan 12, 2016 04:50 AM UTC:
I solved my problem using H.G.'s method (to show single piece images from the Diagram Designer in a submission) by using quotes around the URL & using uppercase for IMG SRC, in a test I carried out. The piece image I chose to test out (in this submission, temporarily modifying it by editing) was shown all by itself, underlined as in the Diagram Designer. [edit: I meant to show this post, more fittingly, in another thread.]

Sac Chess. Play classical chess along with classical compound pieces: amazons, chancellors, archbishops...[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Jan 12, 2016 06:25 PM UTC:
To Carlos:

Now that I've read Game Courier user documentation, I am thinking of trying to play my first Game Courier online game, such as a game of Sac Chess against you, if you wish to play (say at this point in time). I've got a handful of questions though:

1) I can't yet figure out how the players agree to the time contol to be used within their chosen game that is to be played on Game Courier (unless that comes somehow after an invitation is accepted). A large pool of time to play a whole game, for example, would probably suit me best, if that is the sort of default used nowadays.

2) I can't tell (e.g. by your ongoing 3rd Sac Chess game vs. Fergus) what you used as the preset for online Sac Chess (i.e. playing with, or without, rule enforcement) - that's besides not being able to tell what time control is being used in your game. I know I have some issues viewing webpages on The Variant Pages because of my older browser (which I may switch later on), but I don't think that's a problem as far as my viewing Game Courier, generally speaking. In any case, I don't know which preset for Sac Chess has been tested so far, or which you think best to use in a game.

3) I'm not sure if I need (or want) to be put on the Gamesroom(?) player list for regular Game Courier players to be told of existing open invitations. For invitations issued to a single person, I suppose they would show up on the publicly viewable list including open invitations, or the person to whom the invitation is issued to would receive an email. I'm not sure who gets White, i.e. to move first, when any sort of invitation is issued as well, but I don't mind playing against either colour my opponent may want in my first few games. If you wish, you could send me an invitation to play Sac Chess when ready to play (you could also send an invitation for a game of Glinski's Hexagonal Chess to me if you wish, too).

Sincerely, Kevin

💡Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Jan 12, 2016 11:05 PM UTC:
I'm having trouble playing my games with you, Carlos. I managed to play my first move at Sac Chess, but not my second move after receiving your reply. I encountered the same problem as I had in our game of Glinski's Hexagonal Chess right away, in that I had no way made available to me to move (or Preview a move). I switched my browser to Firefox in attempting to shed the problem, and had trouble even visiting this website for a short while (maybe it was just down?). Now I'm back, but my troubles playing haven't gone away after switching browsers. Perhaps Fergus can help. Fwiw, I sent Fergus the following email, while I still could not yet visit this website again:

"Hello Fergus
 
I made my first move with White against Carlos in my Sac Chess game with him. I tried to make my first move as White against Carlos in our game of Glinski’s Hexagonal Chess, but was unable to because unlike for the Sac Chess game log webpage, many options were not presented to me on this game’s Game Courier log webpage, including a space to enter my move, or a button to Preview a given move I’d make. Figuring the problem was with my old browser, I finally decided to switch browsers in an attempt to shed the problem, clicking on Firefox (a suggested browser option on the webpage of my Hexagonal game). After I managed to download Firefox and set up a Firefox account, I was able to use Firefox to get to any number of my Favourite websites successfully using Firefox as my browser, except when I tried to visit The Chess Variant Pages I was not successful, in that a message appeared saying “502 Bad Gateway” and below that was “nginx” as well. Please let me know if the website is down (or whether I might have done something wrong), and pass on to Carlos that I am having trouble continuing to play our games, especially if he is not having trouble seeing The Chess Variant Pages website too (I received his reply with Black to my first move in the Sac Chess game, but clicking on the link also showed the Bad Gateway message.
 
Yours truly, Kevin"

[edit: on the bright side, the problem I had viewing the Berolina Pawn webpage (or unfavouriting it if I wish to) has disappeared.]

💡Kevin Pacey wrote on Wed, Jan 13, 2016 03:54 AM UTC:
After going out this evening, I have returned and succeeded in making my second move in my Sac Chess game, and my first move in my Glinski's Hexagonal Chess game. Thanks Fergus. 

A question to Carlos is, for the Hexagonal Chess variant that we are playing, namely "Glinski's Hexagonal Chess (Symmetric)", is the only difference between it and Glinski's (original) Hexagonal Chess game that the start position is different, that is that there are two queens per side used instead of one queen? 

I did not see any rules given when I looked up the webpage for "Glinski's Hexagonal Chess (Symmetric)", in the big listing of games found on The Chess Variant Pages, so I have assumed (so far) that the basic rules are indeed the same for both the original & Symmetric versions.

Diagram Designer. Lets you display diagrams without uploading any graphics.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Jan 18, 2016 10:05 AM UTC:
As a relative newbie, I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if a Pegasus piece image (e.g. in an Auto Alfairie set) stands for any sort of standard fairy chess piece? I'm not absolutely sure that it isn't a way used to represent a Nightrider. I was thinking of using the Pegasus symbol to represent a novel idea for a piece otherwise. A second question is: does the Unicorn symbol, when used for 2D variants, standardly represent a Banshee (i.e. Nightrider & Bishop compoiund), as stated on wikipedia? In that case, that's how I'd be thinking to use it, but I'm curious since 2D variants commonly show Unicorn symbols.

Tonight I spent quite a while generating a diagram for a 91 cell hexagonal starting position for a hypothetical variant, partly as a test to see if I could do so. I succeeded, but I eventually became so tired that I accidently closed the Diagram Designer window on my laptop... fortunately the FEN code was remembered by the Diagram Designer, so reconstructing the diagram won't take so long if I try.

Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Jan 18, 2016 08:15 PM UTC:
Thanks Fergus. I saw a hexagonal variant diagram used by Charles G. some time ago in the Comments section, and it had me wondering about possible fairy chess conventions for piece images.

Fwiw, here's a wikipedia link, that mentions Banshee as an alternate name for Unicorn:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_chess_piece

Full house hexagonal chess. Game with 50 pieces. (11x11, Cells: 91) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Jan 19, 2016 06:06 PM UTC:
Yes Fergus, I believe they move as you described in different terms than I did. I'll try to get around soon to adding diagrams for these two pieces, at the least, for further clarification.

💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Jan 19, 2016 09:27 PM UTC:
What you visualized is what I had in mind for the Thunderbird (I didn't think that was different than your description, when I imagined that). I may have to edit my description of its move in my submission in any attempt to clarify, besides basically using the first diagram you just provided. [edit: I've now edited my written description of the Thunderbird & Pegasus' movements in my submission, in an attempt to clarify.]

💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Jan 19, 2016 11:00 PM UTC:
Changed it the way you suggested. Thanks Fergus.

💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Wed, Jan 20, 2016 01:16 AM UTC:
I've now added diagrams to my submission, showing possible moves by a Pegasus & Thunderbird on an empty board.

Diagram Designer. Lets you display diagrams without uploading any graphics.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Kevin Pacey wrote on Wed, Jan 20, 2016 01:23 AM UTC:
I sent the following in an email when I had trouble posting earlier today. I failed to notice that I needed to use an HTML tag in my comment: ... Hi Fergus Here's about as far as I got playing around with the Diagram Designer when trying to make a circular board (no particular variant I have in mind to invent, yet at least). I couldn't figure out how to place the pieces or label files in a ring around the board, in spite of reading the Game Courier instructions. If you have time and are willing, could you provide instructions and/or an example?: <IMG SRC="http://play.chessvariants.com/pbm/drawdiagram.php?code=rnbqkbnrpppppppp%2F8%2F8%2F8%2F8%2FPPPPPPPP%2FRNBQKBNR&scale=80&shape=grid&bgimage=circle16x4-large.gif"> Yours truly, Kevin

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