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Shanghai Palace Chess. A blend of Chinese, Japanese, and Western Chess. (9x9, Cells: 81) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

💡📝Gary Gifford wrote on Fri, Aug 5, 2005 04:14 PM UTC:

Christine Bagley-Jones, thanks for the Excellent rating. I too think it is a very fun game and quite playable. I wanted to have a Shanghai Palace Chess tournament with a trophy for a prize... but the interest never seemed to be there. Perhaps someday.

💡📝Gary Gifford wrote on Fri, Apr 28, 2006 09:08 PM UTC:

Each of the 3 presets for this game has a serious problem. The first two have incorret setups - for example, Lances where pawns should be. This was not the case when the presets first appeared; Refer to the rules or the Zillions ZRF file for correct setups. The last preset has missing pawns for one side.

Antoine Fourrière wrote on Sat, Apr 29, 2006 12:30 AM UTC:

It looks like there were errors in both the preset and the shanghai2 set.

💡📝Gary Gifford wrote on Sat, Apr 29, 2006 06:24 PM UTC:

Antoine:
Many thanks for correcting the piece setups.  It is much appreciated.

Yu Ren Dong wrote on Sun, Jan 18, 2009 04:40 PM UTC:

The Kings are too weak to face Shogi promoted rook. The Chinese Elephants are also too weak to face other pieces. I sugguest that let the kings also move diagonally and the Silver Generals move to occupy the original squares of the Chinese Elephants.

💡📝Gary Gifford wrote on Mon, Jan 19, 2009 05:39 PM UTC:

Hi Yu Ren Dong, and thank you for your recent comment in which you state two points, (1)The Kings are too weak to face Shogi promoted rook. (2) The Chinese Elephants are also too weak to face other pieces.

Thank you also for your suggestion, i.e. (A) let the kings also move diagonally and (B) the Silver Generals move to occupy the original squares of the Chinese Elephants.

Reply: That would change the game quite a bit. Each player would have much stronger defense capability. Attacking would be more difficult, defending would be easier.

If you want to make your suggested variation (which perhaps many would find better) I have no objection.

Note that there is a Zillions file for this game. The last I knew it mis-handled Cannons, but it still played by the rules and was still rather fun, I thought. ... Thanks again for your ideas.

Daniil Frolov wrote on Mon, Aug 16, 2010 07:08 AM UTC:

I'm sorry. My 'All pieces of classic chesses' looks like this, but i was not aware of Shanghai Palace Chess when i invented it. But my game have several important differences: it uses all pieces from all 3 games, it have interesting rules of several royal pieces and it's probably first game, where Chinese pawns can make double step and capture en-passant. But Shanghai Palace Chess is, however, probably much better to be actually played, i'll try it.

(zzo38) A. Black wrote on Mon, Aug 16, 2010 09:36 PM UTC:Good ★★★★

This is good. The western student's arguments are terrible. However, I still see how a cannon can capture the shogi pawn and then silver general capturing a cannon, I do not know whether or not changing this would improve the game, or make it worse.

💡📝Gary Gifford wrote on Mon, Aug 16, 2010 11:31 PM UTC:

Hi Daniil Frolov - no need to apologize for having a similar game. With the large number of inventors and inventions, it happens every now and then.

Hi (zzo38) A. Black - Glad you like the game. Hopefully you got to play it against Zillions... though it mishandles cannons (at least it used to) I thought it was still fun...
but not as fun as playing against a human face-to-face. I agree that the western student's arguments are terrible. But I had heard some along those lines.

erwe wrote on Sat, Dec 1, 2012 05:17 PM UTC:

I thought of solving the elephant problem with giving them the ability to jump. it should make them more usefull as this piece has been coppied from an older veriant (persian i think). The cause of the elephant not being able to jump may come from the fact that there are less pieces in xiang qi than in western chess. I have not tried this game but I will try it soon since im making my own set

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