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Bob Greenwade's SVG Library. The SVG files used in Bob's library of pieces.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Fri, Jan 5 05:54 PM UTC:

@Fergus:

Just a reminder that I've now uploaded new icons, and edited this page to match.

(Also, everything waiting in my queue -- most notably the Icon Clearinghouse -- is ready for publication, at least as far as I can tell.)


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Jan 8 02:27 AM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from Fri Jan 5 05:54 PM:

I unzipped your images and updated /graphics.dir/svg/Greenwade/index.html. However, I noticed you were using <tr> and <td> without them being part of a table. I expect those should be removed or replaced, but I'll look into that when it's earlier in the day.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Mon, Jan 8 02:50 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:27 AM:

I merely copied the practice from one of the other SVG pages (the main Alfaerie one, I think). I'll remove them for any future iterations, unless you say otherwise.

And once again you have my thanks. :)


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Mon, Jan 8 03:22 AM UTC:

Yes, that does, in fact, look much, much better. Thanks again!


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Jan 8 03:31 AM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 02:50 AM:

I merely copied the practice from one of the other SVG pages (the main Alfaerie one, I think).

In that case, I would recommend reading up on some HTML basics instead of copying other pages. I'll take a look at that page later.

I'll remove them for any future iterations, unless you say otherwise.

Since I was keeping my computer on to listen to Hearts of Space, I fixed up the HTML tonight, and I copied it to this page. I handled the styling with CSS in some <style> tags.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Mon, Jan 8 03:38 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 03:31 AM:

In that case, I would recommend reading up on some HTML basics instead of copying other pages. I'll take a look at that page later.

Oh, I have the basics. I'm simply not confident that what I remember is still in effect. It turns out that I shouldn't have worried so much.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Jan 8 04:31 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 02:50 AM:

I merely copied the practice from one of the other SVG pages (the main Alfaerie one, I think).

I have now looked at that page. It didn't have the mistakes in HTML I noticed on this page. Although you copied the inner part of the table, you didn't copy the <table> tags. Additionally, the Alfaerie SVG page didn't use <figure> tags at all. Your page is better for using them, because they let you place the name of each piece underneath its image. But you also used <figure> as a container for other <figure> tags, and that wasn't a correct use of this tag.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Mon, Jan 8 04:58 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 04:31 PM:

Now, that is something I didn't know about. Short term, I'll look up those tags to get the thought process in my brain.

If nothing else, I'll try to remember about it, and take a good look before editing, the next time I have an update to this. (That's liable to be a good while, unless I come across something really unexpected once I can start building variants again.)


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sun, Jan 14 05:27 PM UTC:

Minor edit to this page: The Flying Stag at the bottom is now wstag-welementair (instead of wstag-wwings).

No rush to change this on the actual page, Fergus, but please do when you have a minute.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Mon, Jan 15 05:36 PM UTC:

Argh. I just found that I'd neglected to include the Malkia on the page. The icon's there; it just didn't have a space on the list.

That's fixed here; make the transfer when you can, Fergus.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Fri, Jan 19 06:44 PM UTC:

@Fergus: And now I did the same thing with the Angel.

I won't be sending a new upload until I get some open slots, so please transfer the HTML when you have a couple of minutes.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Tue, Jan 23 03:08 AM UTC:

@Fergus: Once more, and probably the penultimate for a good while.

A new ZIP file, and updated content.

If I don't get any new discoveries, requests, etc. (such as someone pointing out icons to represent colors), I'll have one more update to the HTML with the ZIP file of everything.

(I don't know whether it'd be better to put the encompassing ZIP file with this page, or have you transfer it to the official page.)


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Tue, Jan 23 05:01 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 03:08 AM:

@Fergus: I spoke too soon; I figured out how to do color Modifiers. So, I'll upload those and make a new edit later today; you can then unzip both files at once, and only have to change the HTML one time.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Tue, Jan 23 08:29 PM UTC:

@ Fergus: Okay, I uploaded the Color Modifiers, and created a new section for them in the HTML. Please unzip that ZIP and this one, and transfer the HTML for what I hope is the second-to-last time for a good while.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Wed, Jan 24 02:31 AM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from Tue Jan 23 08:29 PM:

Okay, I have unzipped your files and copied your page. I made one change, turning a second <P> tag into a closing </P> tag.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Wed, Jan 24 03:22 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:31 AM:

Thank you, for both the copying and the correction. (A special thank-you for being that much on the ball!)


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sat, Jan 27 12:35 AM UTC:

@Fergus: I've set this page to Private, but as I did so it made all the icon windows appear in my browser in a single column. I'm not sure whether that's just an idiosyncrasy, or I did something to screw things up.

I'm coming across a few icons that I failed to catalogue the last time around, but I'll add them as I go and they can be added after I upload the master ZIP.

Addendum: Also, the link to this page is no longer showing up anywhere on my profile or Unpublished sections, so I don't have a way (short of bookmarking in my browser) of marking where it is.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Jan 27 02:37 AM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 12:35 AM:

I've set this page to Private, but as I did so it made all the icon windows appear in my browser in a single column. I'm not sure whether that's just an idiosyncrasy, or I did something to screw things up.

I temporarily switched it back to Members-Only, and it made no difference. Looking at your HTML, I see that you radically changed it, and the code that enabled the images to neatly line up in rows is no longer there. I would recommend going back to the last revision using FIGURE tags. If you didn't intentionally change your HTML, you might have used WYSIWYG mode. Do not use this mode on carefully written HTML, as it can mess it up.

Also, the link to this page is no longer showing up anywhere on my profile or Unpublished sections, so I don't have a way (short of bookmarking in my browser) of marking where it is.

There is a new menu item in the menu for seeing your works-in-progress.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Sat, Jan 27 04:20 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:37 AM:

@ Fergus

In clicking on the works-in-progress menu item, I saw a paragraph that was followed by '(not working yet)'. Assuming that still holds, if fresh submissions are submitted during the transition process (I cannot guess if it will be short), do they currently still go onto the 'Your Unpublished Submissions' page list?


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sat, Jan 27 04:25 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:37 AM:

OK, I reinstated the previous version. I actually hadn't done anything in the way of editing at all, other than changing that one thing, so I'm not sure what happened.

There is a new menu item in the menu for seeing your works-in-progress.

Yes, there is now. Thanks for adding that. (It wasn't there when I wrote the remark about not seeing a link; I did look for it exactly where it is now.)


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Jan 27 01:20 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 04:20 AM:

In clicking on the works-in-progress menu item, I saw a paragraph that was followed by '(not working yet)'.

I deleted that, because it is working now.

Assuming that still holds, if fresh submissions are submitted during the transition process (I cannot guess if it will be short), do they currently still go onto the 'Your Unpublished Submissions' page list?

No, it just meant that until it was working, someone who went to the page's URL could still see its contents.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Jan 27 01:26 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 04:25 AM:

OK, I reinstated the previous version. I actually hadn't done anything in the way of editing at all, other than changing that one thing, so I'm not sure what happened.

I did an experiment where I went into WYSIWYG mode and back to HTML mode without editing anything, and the result was what you got. Instead of FIGURE tags connecting images and captions, each image and each caption was in its own P tag, and the FIGURE tags were just gone. So, I should put up a confirm box with a warning when someone tries to switch to WYSIWYG mode when there is content that might be damaged by it.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sat, Jan 27 03:16 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 01:26 PM:

I did an experiment where I went into WYSIWYG mode and back to HTML mode without editing anything, and the result was what you got. Instead of FIGURE tags connecting images and captions, each image and each caption was in its own P tag, and the FIGURE tags were just gone. So, I should put up a confirm box with a warning when someone tries to switch to WYSIWYG mode when there is content that might be damaged by it.

That'll do, at least until the sections with such content can automatically activate the Source button (and manually deactivating it generates that warning).

Reminder: This happens to Interactive Diagrams as well.


H. G. Muller wrote on Sat, Jan 27 06:13 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 01:26 PM:

WYSIWYG mode pretty much destroys all HTML tags, except for a very small subset that it could have generated itself through the editor buttons. And even then it will destroy almost any property of such tags (such as id, style or class).


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Jan 27 07:07 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 06:13 PM:

WYSIWYG mode pretty much destroys all HTML tags, except for a very small subset that it could have generated itself through the editor buttons. And even then it will destroy almost any property of such tags (such as id, style or class).

I have removed the Source button from CkEditor, which makes the Format button the only way to switch it between HTML and WYSIWYG mode, and I have put a confirm box on the Format button to warn anyone who uses it to select WYSIWYG mode. Besides that, I have edited the text about each format to make it clear that WYSIWYG is not recommended, as it can alter your HTML.


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