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💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Fri, May 19, 2017 11:55 PM EDT:

Official page for the tournament has been created.  We presently have eight people who have expressed an interest in playing.  It would be great if we could get one more.  Then we'd play 8 games with everyone playing each other player exactly once and everyone would play with the white pieces exactly half of the time.

Please post a reply if you are interested in participating.  If there is no more interest, I will finalize things at the end of the weekend.

Also, I have received game rankings from Carlos, Nick, Erik, Fergus, John, and myself.  Jarid has abstained from voting.  Aurelian, would you like to rank your game preferences?


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, May 20, 2017 03:33 AM EDT:

Hello,

My ranking is:

1.FRC,Berolina,Switching,Marseillaise,Extinction

2.Shogi,Xiangqi,Makruk,janggi

3.Capablanca, Embassy,Grotesque,Janus,Victorian

4. Eurasian, Grand, Omega, Unicorn Great, Opulent

5.Glinkski's, McCooey's, Cylindrical, Circular, Diamond

6.Chu Shogi,Courier Chess, Shatranj, Grand Acedrix, Los Alamos,

7. CWDA, Wildebeest, Ultima, Pocket Mutation, Alice Chess,


Nick Wolff wrote on Mon, May 22, 2017 06:49 PM EDT:

I know we are looking to finalize the tournament games and roster, but Vitya has finally made some moves in our games and I let him know about the tournament.  I'll see if he is interested and maybe we can get a 9th player.


💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Mon, May 22, 2017 11:12 PM EDT:

Excellent.  He's certainly welcome, and there is still time.  I was sick this weekend, so I didn't do anything as far as the tournament goes.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, May 23, 2017 06:55 AM EDT:

Also. I'm making preparations to move this site to a new server, and I would like to get the move done before the tournament starts, so that it won't interrupt it.


Vitya Makov wrote on Fri, May 26, 2017 04:07 PM EDT:

Hi! I would like to participate. My favourite is: Berolina, Korean (or Chinese), Embassy, Eurasian, Circular, Courier, CWDA.


💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Fri, May 26, 2017 04:23 PM EDT:

Excellent!  Welcome.  We will wait until the server move is complete before starting.

 

Would you like to rank all games in each category?  It is not necessary, but partial rankings will have no effect on the relative position of games not ranked.


Vitya Makov wrote on Fri, May 26, 2017 04:58 PM EDT:

Ok. Lets try)

Chess with a small modification:Berolina Chess,Fischer Random Chess,Switching Chess,Extinction Chess,Marseillais Chess.

Regional variant:Jangii (Korean Chess), Xiangqi (Chinese Chess),Makruk (Thai Chess),Shogi (Japanese Chess)

Capablanca variant:Embassy Chess,Janus Chess,Capablanca Chess,Victorian Chess,Grotesque Chess.

Decimal variant:Eurasian Chess,Unicorn Great Chess,Grand Chess,Omega Chess,Opulent Chess.

Alternate geometry:Circular Chess,McCooey's Hexagonal Chess,Glinski's Hexagonal Chess,Diamond Chess,Cylindrical Chess.

Historical game:Courier Chess,Shatranj,Los Alamos Chess,Grande Acedrex,Chu Shogi

Recognized variant grab-bag:Chess with Different Armies,Wildebeest Chess,Pocket Mutation Chess,Alice Chess,Ultima

 

 


danielmacduff wrote on Sat, Jun 3, 2017 12:18 PM EDT:

I accept this challenge.

Fischer/Xiangqi/Victorian/Unicorn/Cylindrical/Grande/CwDA


💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Sat, Jun 3, 2017 01:45 PM EDT:

Excellent, welcome!

I've been adding up points based on everyone's rankings to determine which games we will be playing. Before your entry, we had ties in three of seven categories! So thank you for resolving that :) I'm now ready to finalize the game list. New joiners are still welcome, but I'm locking down the game selection. We will be playing the one game from each category that got the most points in the voting, plus the one remaining game with the highest points overall, which was Berolina Chess, so we'll be playing two games from category one.

Here's the final list:

Chess with a small modification: Fischer Random Chess and Berolina Chess

Regional variant: Xiangqi (Chinese Chess)

Capablanca variant: Victorian Chess

Decimal variant: Eurasian Chess

Alternate geometry: Glinski's Hexagonal Chess

Historical game: Courier Chess

Recognized variant grab-bag: Chess w/ Different Armies

We'll get started soon after the server move is complete.


Nick Wolff wrote on Thu, Jun 15, 2017 06:48 PM EDT:

Hey Greg!

Just wanted to get an update on the start date for this.  Thanks for putting it on, Greg!

-Nick


Zachary Wade wrote on Thu, Jun 15, 2017 07:08 PM EDT:

I've just seen this. Is there any spots still left open? Or would I make the numbers uneven?

Also, I can't see the other comments on the page as I don't have a desktop at the moment.


💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Thu, Jun 15, 2017 11:16 PM EDT:

Hi Zack.  You are more than welcome to join.

Let's plan on kicking it off a week from Saturday (June 24th.)  I will generate and post the list of pairings this weekend.


Zachary Wade wrote on Fri, Jun 16, 2017 07:45 AM EDT:

Great! Thanks Greg :) 

If this still applies then these are my preferences (if not then even the games I haven't played look interesting):

1 (most want to play to least)

  • Extinction Chess
  • Switching Chess
  • Berolina Chess
  • Marseillais Chess
  • Fischer random

2

  • Xiangqi
  • Shogi
  • Janggi
  • Makruk

3. I have no preference for any of these, they all look interesting.

4. Same as 3

5. Same as 3.

6.

  • Chi shogi
  • Shatranj
  • I don't mind the rest

7.

  • Alice Chess

See you all in the competition :)


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Fri, Jun 16, 2017 08:51 AM EDT:

I'll officially sign up for the tournament now.


V. Reinhart wrote on Fri, Jun 16, 2017 03:19 PM EDT:

Three questions (sorry if these were already answered, but I couldn't immediatelly see these topics in the rules or the thread):

1) There are 7 categories. If we sign-up does that mean we are committed to playing seven games (1 in each category)? We play only one game at a time?

2) If we have an extended time without access to internet (travel or work assignment) can we use "spare time" while game is on-hold?

3) Is computer-assistance allowed (I haven't checked, but I believe some of these games can be played on chess engines).

Thanks:)


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Fri, Jun 16, 2017 04:32 PM EDT:

Three questions (sorry if these were already answered, but I couldn't immediatelly see these topics in the rules or the thread):

Since I'm not running this tournament, Greg can correct me if I'm wrong.

1) There are 7 categories. If we sign-up does that mean we are committed to playing seven games (1 in each category)? We play only one game at a time?

I think he plans for us to play eight games concurrently. Since games won't be played in a single sitting, there is no reason to play one at a time. And if we did it that way, the tournament would go on too long.

2) If we have an extended time without access to internet (travel or work assignment) can we use "spare time" while game is on-hold?

The time controls should include spare time that can be used for that purpose.

3) Is computer-assistance allowed (I haven't checked, but I believe some of these games can be played on chess engines).

While no one can stop you from doing that, it would be cheating. The point of the tournament is to challenge yourself by playing Chess variants against other people. If you're just here to win, even if it means cheating, then you shouldn't enter.


V. Reinhart wrote on Fri, Jun 16, 2017 10:26 PM EDT:

Thank Fergus,

(Q1) Playing eight games concurently with time-control (4 moves/week) is playing an average of 4.6 moves per day. Obviously it would be good to learn all the games rules before-hand. That's a bit much to learn "on-the-fly".

(Q2) Thanks for the answer.

(Q3) Thanks. Someone on one of these forums once mentioned cyborg chess, and I wasn't sure if that was the format. A format (human + computer) vs (human + computer) could be fun too. I just wanted to know for sure (better to know the rules before the game starts rather than in the middle of the game).

Playing eight games concurently is a bit much for me with my other commitments, but sounds fun. Good luck!!


💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Fri, Jun 16, 2017 11:41 PM EDT:

Fergus is correct with everything except for playing all 8 games at a time.  That was not my intention.  That would be overwhelming for many of us (myself included.)  Conversely, playing one at a time is also not really workable as the tournament would last far too long and people would lose interest. This is one thing I never nailed down.

I'm thinking either 3 or 4 games at a time.  If we do 4, the tournament will end in two rounds.  If we do 3, the tournament will run for three rounds.  If we decide to go with three rounds, I'd also increase the number of games played from 8 to 9 so there would be an even three games in each round.  The game with the next highest vote total not selected is Wildebeest Chess, so that's the one we would add.

So what do you all think?  Two rounds with four games at a time or three rounds with three at a time?  Although I'm running it, (because someone has to,) this is really your tournament.

Regarding game selection, as previously posted, the game selection has been finalized.  New participants are still welcome to join, but voting for games is closed.  (This is because I have to cut it off at some point - people would be reluctant to commit if I never made it clear what the games were going to be.)  The final game list is: Fischer Random Chess, Berolina Chess, Xiangqi (Chinese Chess), Victorian Chess, Eurasian Chess, Glinski's Hexagonal Chess, Courier Chess, and Chess with Different Armies.  (And, if we go with three rounds of three games, we will add Wildebeest Chess.)

As for a computer-assisted ("cyborg") tournament, this is an idea that has interested me, and I may run one at some point, but this is a human-only tournament. I'd imagine a cyborg tournment would attract a different, and probably smaller, crowd.

Thank you everyone for bearing with me as we nail down these final details and excusing the delay caused by the server move. Games will be created and the tournament will officially begin a week from tomorrow - Saturday June 24th - somewhere between noon and 3:00 PM Eastern Standard Time (GMT-4)


Omnia Nihilo wrote on Sat, Jun 17, 2017 08:10 AM EDT:

I'd say 3 games for 3 rounds. Seems easier to me. 


Nick Wolff wrote on Sat, Jun 17, 2017 07:14 PM EDT:

I agree.  With the amount of people, I think 3 games for 3 rounds would be nice (plus, I like Wildebeest Chess haha)


Erik Lerouge wrote on Sat, Jun 17, 2017 07:41 PM EDT:

I think 3 games at a time is good. But 4 games are also OK for me. 


Zachary Wade wrote on Sat, Jun 17, 2017 09:15 PM EDT:

Either are good for me but I'll throw my votes in with 3 for 3 too :) 


V. Reinhart wrote on Sun, Jun 18, 2017 12:26 AM EDT:

Thanks Greg for the clarifications. I'll sit this tournament out, but it does look like fun.

Some time I would like to play an engine-assisted game. Might be interesting for a game on a large board, like chess on a 12x12 board. I've always been curious if a flank attack (attack from behind the king) can be well-executed. It takes extra moves to get there, but the defense from that angle might be weaker.

Have fun in the tournament.:)


💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Mon, Jun 19, 2017 09:41 AM EDT:

Ok, three rounds of three games each.  I will work on creating the pairings and updating the web page.


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