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Gary Gifford wrote on Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:00 PM UTC:
This is a request for help in obtaining a list of games that include introducing pieces to the game via gating. An unofficial definition in review follows, and is only to be used for now as a guideline for looking for games that employ gating. If you help add to the list, please also include the applicable letter. For example, Catapults of Troy and Shatranj of Troy use method 'b.' Time Travel Chess and Cannons of Chesstonia use a restricted version of 'd.'

Gating - 1. v. A specialized version of a drop, where a piece or pawn [in reserve, i.e., a pocket piece] is dropped onto a vacant square as designated by the rules for that specific game. A gated piece, for example, could possibly enter a game by one or more of the following methods as designated by the rules: (a) the starting space of a piece or pawn that just moved; (b) a space which was just vacated by a pawn or piece (not necessarily the starting space), (c) a vacant space which is under the influence of a pawn or piece (a projected gated piece); (d) dropped onto a designated vacant space, or one space of a set of spaces (as with a Shogi drop). (e) use another method, such as the roll of dice to introduce a piece. Typically only one of these methods would be expected to exist in a given game which deploys gating. Note that gating is often a two-piece move, akin to castling in standard Fide chess.

When citing a game, please include author and date invented. Many thanks for helping with this project, sincerely Gary


Charles Daniel wrote on Thu, Mar 20, 2008 10:38 PM UTC:
My optional ninja pawn drop rule applies to  my 104 square variants: Birds
and Ninjas, and Insane Ninja chess. Any one of the rear 2 squares when
vacant is the gate . 
Sounds like designated space (d).

Same with Pick the Piece Big Chess but here any square on back rank is
designated space.

Antoine Fourrière wrote on Fri, Mar 21, 2008 02:08 AM UTC:
My Chess on a Larger Board with not so few pieces dropped and Jacks and Witches also fall into the d category. Another game of mine, Dual Chess, introduces the Marshall and the Cardinal on an extra board. This could be viewed as delayed gating since there's no real incentive to go back to that board.

Gary Gifford wrote on Fri, Mar 21, 2008 02:42 AM UTC:
Many thanks Antoine for listing your games pertaining to gating and drops. 
They have been noted.  Best regards, Gary

Rich Hutnik wrote on Tue, Mar 25, 2008 03:31 AM UTC:
Hey Gary, can you get this in the Wiki definitions, if possible?  Also,
please change D.

Anyhow, I think I have found gating dating back to a game in the late
1990s on here that uses Gating in the Seirawan chess way.  That game is
Bosworth:
http://www.chessvariants.org/index/external.php?itemid=Bosworth

The only difference between Bosworth compared Seirawan and IAGO Chess, is
that you had to gate a piece in every turn you had one in reserve.  That
is it. So, in this regard, there isn't really much new under the sun.

Rich Hutnik wrote on Tue, Mar 25, 2008 04:49 PM UTC:
Gary, I would change the wording of the gating definition to be something
like:
Gating - 1. v. A specialized version of a drop, where a piece or pawn
[usually in reserve, a pocket piece] is place on a square, usually vacant,
as designated by the rules for that specific game which involve at least
one other pieces on the board. A gated piece, for example, could possibly
enter a game by one or more of the following methods as designated by the
rules: (a) the starting space of a piece or pawn that just moved; (b) a
space which was just vacated by a pawn or piece (not necessarily the
starting space), (c) a vacant space which is under the influence of a pawn
or piece (a projected gated piece); (d) replacing a piece currently on the
board that reaches a one space of a set of spaces (promotion); (e) the
teleporting of a piece on a board to another square on the board (example:
castling).  Gating is normally considered an exclusive move type, but may
be combined with another move type, if the rules permit.  Typically only
one of these methods would be expected to exist in a given game which
deploys gating.  What differentiates gating from being a drop, is that
gating is governed one or more pieces on the board.  Without this
relationship to a piece or pieces on the board, the move would be a
regular drop, as is seen in Bughouse or Shogi.

Rich Hutnik wrote on Fri, Apr 4, 2008 02:20 PM UTC:
Gating has been added to the Wiki site:
http://chessvariants.wikidot.com/pcp-tg:gating

Please feel free to comment.

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