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H. G. Muller wrote on Sat, Jan 27 07:22 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 07:07 PM:

I am not sure this is a good idea; I often need the Source button in texts I composed entirely in WYSIWYG mode, to fix a typo in a URL of an embedded image or link.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sat, Jan 27 07:34 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 07:22 PM:

I am not sure this is a good idea; I often need the Source button in texts I composed entirely in WYSIWYG mode, to fix a typo in a URL of an embedded image or link.

I agree. There are times when I want to edit the ID in one section and the text of another in one go, switching back and forth, such as when I'm changing a few pieces' icons and/or XBetza.

In fact, if the Source button can be made "sticky," so that leaving with it on means that it's on when I come back, that would be ideal.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Jan 27 07:58 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 07:22 PM:

I often need the Source button in texts I composed entirely in WYSIWYG mode, to fix a typo in a URL of an embedded image or link.

You do not need the Source button for that. The Format SELECT item will let you do that without using the Source button.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Jan 27 08:04 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 07:34 PM:

There are times when I want to edit the ID in one section and the text of another in one go, switching back and forth, such as when I'm changing a few pieces' icons and/or XBetza.

Just change the format with the Format drop down box. Nothing is stopping you from switching modes in CkEditor. You just can't do it with the Source button, because that makes it too easy to mess up your code without warning.

In fact, if the Source button can be made "sticky," so that leaving with it on means that it's on when I come back, that would be ideal.

The Format drop down box is sticky. When you load a page to edit it, it will be on the format used for your page when it was last saved.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sat, Jan 27 08:12 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 08:04 PM:

Just change the format with the Format drop down box. Nothing is stopping you from switching modes in CkEditor.

The problem with this is that when I have an ID in one section and text to edit in the other, switching to WYSIWYG for the whole thing screws up the ID, and I have to start over. There's no ability to go back and forth.

You just can't do it with the Source button, because that makes it too easy to mess up your code without warning.

I've never messed up my code using the Source button. When it's happened, it's always been with the Format drop-down. When the Source button's been involved, it's because I had the page in WYSIWYG with the Source button on in the section in question, and of course the Source button isn't sticky so it switched directly to WYSIWYG. It's for this reason that I'm careful to never edit a page with an ID without opening the source code first.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Jan 27 08:30 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 08:12 PM:

The problem with this is that when I have an ID in one section and text to edit in the other, switching to WYSIWYG for the whole thing screws up the ID, and I have to start over. There's no ability to go back and forth.

The lesson here is don't use WYSIWYG at all. While its destruction may be greater for an Interactive Diagram, it can mess up other HTML too.

I've never messed up my code using the Source button.

Whether or not you have is not as important as whether you could. As a test, I briefly restored the Source button, opened your page to edit it, clicked on the Source button twice for the pieces section, and it destroyed all your <FIGURE> tags, placing each image and caption in its own <P> tags.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sat, Jan 27 10:16 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 08:30 PM:

The lesson here is don't use WYSIWYG at all. While its destruction may be greater for an Interactive Diagram, it can mess up other HTML too.

You might as well be telling me to stop contributing at all.

As an experiment of my own, I opened a different page in HTML, then clicked the "Source" button on some of the sections. That actually works almost as well as what I was asking for, and better than the "copy the source code" I've been doing. So, please just leave it alone.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Jan 28 02:12 AM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from Sat Jan 27 10:16 PM:

While it's best to not use WYSIWYG mode, you do retain the option of using it .

If want this option because you're unfamiliar with HTML or prefer the convenience of writing without adding in HTML tags, then I recommend using Markdown. This translates common text conventions into appropriate HTML at display time, and it allows you to add HTML if you wish. In a test I ran, I was even able to include code for an Interactive Diagram and have it display properly while using the Markdown format.

If you want a convenient preview, I just added a new Preview button to the form for editing your page. Click on this to get a preview of your current edits in a new tab or window. Unlike the preview that WYSIWYG mode could give you, this preview will actually match how your page will look, and it will not alter your HTML. It should prove to be a great way to regularly preview your edits without saving a bunch of revisions.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sun, Jan 28 02:21 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:12 AM:Excellent ★★★★★

I want the option because trying to write sentences longer than a few words with any sort of coding on the screen plays havoc on my aging, autistic, perennially sleep-deprived brain. Among other things, I've been a writer of other things (plays, novels, etc.) for so long that by the time I'm done with a paragraph of this length I'll be close to forgetting that I'm not in WYSIWIG.

The Preview button is a great thing (to say the least), but I'll still have a problem with no Source button.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Jan 28 05:50 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 02:21 AM:

I found out how to make the Source button safer, then restored it. Much of its rewriting of code was due to the Advanced Content Filter, which I turned off. However, it will still replace & with &amp;, which can be a problem for query strings in URLs. At least fen2.php is robust enough to interpret &amp; as &, which means it doesn't break your use of this script on this page.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sun, Jan 28 06:16 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 05:50 PM:

Well, this is the one page that I only ever edit in HTML mode (which is why I was so bewildered by the glitch that started this mess). Where I have things like Interactive Diagrams, I'm happy to enter in HTML mode, then press the Source button (to turn it off) and edit that section in WYSIWIG mode without disturbing the ID. It's just one extra click, nice and simple, and it keeps the chainsaw out of the beehive.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Mon, Feb 5 04:18 PM UTC:

@Fergus:

As I've now found a total of four icons (including the Elephantrider) that I hadn't included in the HTML, I think it might serve well to copy it over as soon as you have a couple of minutes. (Both the Pieces and Notes sections are updated.)


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Tue, Feb 6 07:43 PM UTC:

@Fergus:

I have a new set of icons for unzipping, as well as new HTML for this page.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, Feb 6 09:15 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 07:43 PM:

Okay, I unzipped your images and copied over your HTML.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Tue, Feb 6 09:46 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 09:15 PM:

Thank you again! :)


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Wed, Feb 7 06:27 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from Tue Feb 6 09:15 PM:

Are you sure you got the HTML copied? I'm not seeing the changes, even when I paste the URL into a fresh browser.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Wed, Feb 7 06:43 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 06:27 PM:

Since the timestamp on the file was from last month, I did it again. This time the timestamp changed to today.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Wed, Feb 7 07:00 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 06:43 PM:

And it all looks correct now. Thanks again! :)

Edit: Argh! I spoke too soon! An error on my part made a Hat that should have been Top Hat, which would move that icon down to between the Sniff and the Troll. I'm not sure whether it'd be easier for you to fix that manually or copy the HTML again, but either way you have my apology for that.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Thu, Feb 8 12:24 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from Wed Feb 7 06:43 PM:

@Fergus: ICYMI: I did have an error (entirely my own fault) in labeling the Top Hat as simply Hat, meaning I had to both rename and move it. It's fixed on this page now; I'm not sure whether it'd be easier for you to fix it manually or copy the HTML again, but either way you have my apologies and thanks.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Thu, Feb 8 01:38 AM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 12:24 AM:

It was still in my text editor. So I made the change there and uploaded it.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Thu, Feb 8 02:13 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 01:38 AM:

You only changed the label, not the piece name (from what.svg to wtophat.svg) nor its position (between Sniff and Troll).


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Thu, Feb 8 03:58 PM UTC:

@Fergus: I just uploaded a corrected High Priestess icon.

Also, please note the still-existing problems with the Top Hat (the filename in the HTML, and its location, both need to be changed).


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Thu, Feb 8 05:06 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 02:13 AM:

You only changed the label, not the piece name (from what.svg to wtophat.svg) nor its position (between Sniff and Troll).

Okay, I did the other things.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Thu, Feb 8 05:31 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 03:58 PM:

I just uploaded a corrected High Priestess icon.

I just moved it over.


💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Mon, Feb 19 11:41 PM UTC:

@Fergus:

I just uploaded some new icons, and the HTML to go with it (as well as adding yet another icon that I'd already uploaded, but forgot to include in the list!).


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