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Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Wed, Jan 27, 2021 03:43 PM EST in reply to Aurelian Florea from 01:07 PM:

Dear Aurelian

Personally I'm not fan of abstract design indicating the moves. Even when simpler than yours. It is extremely confusing for my brain to see more than one at once and if of course I understand the logic behind, I cannot play at all with them. For example the ones used here: https://www.chessvariants.com/rules/sac-chess I cannot play with that. Hopefully not everyone is like me.


Daniel Zacharias wrote on Wed, Jan 27, 2021 03:27 PM EST in reply to Aurelian Florea from 01:07 PM:

I think that for moves of more than 2 squares it gets difficult to tell easily what the move is exactly on those tiny diagrams. There's a lot of redundancy in your images because everything is repeated 4 times, or more.

If you really need to represent the pieces with their movements, try doing it more abstractly.

Using letters would be ok if you can't get good images. Maybe just use letters for things you don't have images for yet.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Wed, Jan 27, 2021 01:07 PM EST:

In the following is what I did for images and names for this game. I had tried a diagram representation. Unfortunately the 50x50 pixels of the images need to be split in a 9x9 grid leaving little room for things to happen in one grid cell. That is because the longest path mover moves 43&41 and some bent riders bend after the 3rd step. The excepting for that is the joker. The joker is represented by a big J. That got me thinking about making instead images with 2 letters from the English alphabet. What do you think about this? Also if you have any suggestion on how to improve the images I'm listening gladly. I am not talented at this nor imaginative.

 Just the Bishop.

The Rook.

 The queen.

 The king.

 The Pawn.

 The berolina.

  The kinghtrider.

 The chinesse cannon.

 The joker (imitator).

 The vulture (a 41&43  falcon).

 The knight of this game(NmZ).

 The mameluk (WL).

 The siege elephant (FAH).

 The caliph(BL).

The dragon (a ferz then rook).

 A unicorn  (BNN).

 The firebird. A  Bishop3 then rook that can also step like a wazir.

The thunderbird. A rook2thenbishop that can also step like a ferz.

Thanks for reading all this! I await your reactions.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sun, Jan 24, 2021 11:48 AM EST in reply to Greg Strong from 10:58 AM:

Thanks!


Greg Strong wrote on Sun, Jan 24, 2021 10:58 AM EST in reply to Aurelian Florea from 09:13 AM:

249, 249, 249


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sun, Jan 24, 2021 09:13 AM EST in reply to Greg Strong from Mon Dec 21 2020 08:51 AM:

@Greg, May you please tell me what is the RGB for the colour #f9f9f9.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 03:57 AM EST in reply to Greg Strong from Mon Dec 21 08:51 AM:

I could not draw the pieces in question (Thunderbird and Firebird) so if someone is willing to help me I'd be extremely grateful.


Greg Strong wrote on Mon, Dec 21, 2020 08:51 AM EST:

Yes, that is possible.

You only need to make white pieces and the white should be #f9f9f9. From this we'll render the white and blue pieces in PNG.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Mon, Dec 21, 2020 07:57 AM EST:

Is it permited to make draws that are more colored than white and blue (in allfaerie). I want to create the firebird with a fire shadow on it's back. That shoul be red, or cherry for black and a lighter red for white. Something similar I'd like to do do to the thunderbeard.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 11:42 AM EST:

Any ideas on how a Thunderbird and a Firebird should look like?


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 11:07 AM EST in reply to Greg Strong from 10:54 AM:

I'll try inkscape on my own, for now. I have to learn to do this one day, anyway!


Greg Strong wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 10:54 AM EST in reply to Aurelian Florea from 10:23 AM:

I don't see where can I upload graphics.

Go to the page for one of your games and select 'Upload or Manage Files' from the black box towards the bottom.

I'd also like them to enter in a directory so that it can be used by the interactive diagram.

I will have to do that for you.  You can only upload to the membergraphics folder.

I might be able to help you make graphics but my availability is limited since I'm in the process of moving right now.  Any new graphics should be made in SVG (vector graphics) format, not a bitmap format.  Inkscape is the free program typically used for this.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 10:23 AM EST in reply to Greg Strong from 10:08 AM:

Everyone can upload graphics, but incorporating them into a GС piece set requires an editor.

1. I don't see where can I upload graphics.

2. I'd also like them to enter in a directory so that it can be used by the interactive diagram.


H. G. Muller wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 10:23 AM EST:

We really must do something about that. I don't see any reason why there couldn't be a user-defined mapping between piece labels and graphics URLs.


Greg Strong wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 10:08 AM EST:

Everyone can upload graphics, but incorporating them into a GС piece set requires an editor.


H. G. Muller wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 09:35 AM EST:

I thought everyone that has posted an article can upload graphics files?


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 09:32 AM EST:

Which images should I use for the Thunderbird and the Firebird. Can anyone help me with drawing and uploading the pictures as I don't have any skills with the draw part and I do not have upload rights?


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 02:33 AM EST in reply to Erik Lerouge from Tue Dec 8 04:04 AM:

Thunderbird and Firebird then!


Zhedric Meneses wrote on Tue, Dec 8, 2020 06:16 AM EST:

While we're on the topic of mythical creatures, I wonder how many of them appeared in Chess Variants

I only know there's Unicorn, Dragon(?), Gryphon/Griffon, Aanca/Anqa, Kirin, and Phoenix


Erik Lerouge wrote on Tue, Dec 8, 2020 04:04 AM EST:

And what about Firebird and Thunderbird for bent-riders? With these you keep the mythical bird theme for bent-riders (even if they aren't from the same cultural origin: the Firebird is from slavic folklore, the Thunderbird from North American idigenous culture). And, even if they have been certainly used for fairy pieces in recent variants, these names are not already used in a historical game, a fortiori for the original naming of a well-known fairy piece (Aanca-Gryphon).


Aurelian Florea wrote on Tue, Dec 8, 2020 02:02 AM EST in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from Mon Dec 7 04:52 PM:

I'm wondering though why can't the creature Anqa be used in a proper way as described by history and you don't like it to be used at all?


Aurelian Florea wrote on Tue, Dec 8, 2020 01:27 AM EST in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from Mon Dec 7 04:52 PM:

Ok,Jean-Louis!


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Dec 7, 2020 04:52 PM EST in reply to Aurelian Florea from 03:50 AM:

Too bad Aurelian you don't want to change your mind. Anka is the word used in Spanish for the Gryphon. Is like if you call a Bishop, a Torre. You can call your piece otherwise, a Simurgh or anything, why a Anka/Anqa/Aanca? Check that page: http://history.chess.free.fr/acedrex.htm


H. G. Muller wrote on Mon, Dec 7, 2020 06:57 AM EST in reply to Aurelian Florea from 06:50 AM:

You mean the Interactive Diagram?

That takes all its images from the same directory, which you can specify through graphicsDir=... amongst the parameters. If you cannot create files in that directory, the only option is to copy all the files you need from there to a directory of your own, where you can create files, and then put the extra images there too.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Mon, Dec 7, 2020 06:50 AM EST:

@HG, How do I add extra images to the diagram designer?


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