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Joe Joyce wrote on Thu, Jul 31, 2008 11:52 PM UTC:
Derek, what you did was only good science. You've made it harder to
dismiss Mr. Muller's findings, which is to his benefit, as well as ours.
All claims need to be tested, and it's somewhat of a truism that
extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. We all have to applaud
rigorous testing; when there is an attempt to overturn commonly-held
ideas, serious testing of the claims is an absolute necessity. I hope
others will also report test results.

Derek Nalls wrote on Thu, Jul 31, 2008 11:28 PM UTC:
Inconclusive Report

Joker80 Versions Tournament
limited randomized vs. non-randomized
60 minutes per move
http://www.symmetryperfect.com/report

Push the 'download now' button.

Muller's assertion that randomization used within the standard version of
Joker80 has been responsibly, appropriately limited and controlled so that
playing variety is added without measurably reducing playing strength has
been tentatively verified over a range of playing times up to 60 minutes
per move.  The limited randomized (standard) version and non-randomized
version of Joker80 have approximately equal playing strength. 

Despite the expertise and truthfulness of Muller, I could not accept his
reassurances at face value.  I had to test them.  Now, I accept them.

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