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Squirrel. Jumps two orthogonally, two diagonally, or like a knight.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Bob Greenwade wrote on Fri, Jul 21, 2023 09:40 PM UTC in reply to Bn Em from 05:46 PM:

That's helpful (and you have my thanks, Bn Em), but not as helpful as I'd hoped. Are there any others? Anyone?

Bn Em wrote on Fri, Jul 21, 2023 05:46 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 05:01 PM:

Gilman (in Diverse Directions) names those pieces Mara and Capybara, the largest of the rodents (to go with the established Squirrel and his Beaver for Silverman's/Cazaux's Cheetah)

Bob Greenwade wrote on Fri, Jul 21, 2023 05:01 PM UTC:

Related question: If the King/Mann/Commoner covers the first perimeter, the Squirrel/Bear/Centurion covers the second, and the Cheetah covers the third, what covers the fourth and fifth perimeters?

Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Fri, Mar 19, 2021 06:56 AM UTC in reply to Hasan Elias from Thu Mar 18 11:46 PM:

Originally the Chariot is the sense of the Rook, it is still that sense in xiangqi (where the sinogram also means "car").

Greg Strong wrote on Thu, Mar 18, 2021 11:54 PM UTC in reply to Hasan Elias from 11:46 PM:

Wow, that is an obscene amount of power for an 8x8 board... I'd expect all tactics and no strategy.

Also, every piece can move like a knight except the king. Since that's the only piece not augmented, maybe give him a knight's move too so he doesn't get checkmated too easily.

Hasan Elias wrote on Thu, Mar 18, 2021 11:46 PM UTC:

In my variant, Supercharged Chess, I called this piece the "Supercharged Knight", but another name could be the "Chariot". Here is my variant:

Anonymous wrote on Mon, Apr 12, 2010 04:19 PM UTC:
Ineresting: in some medieval forms of chess (wich are closer to Shantraj)
king could leap like squirrel on it's first move (castling evolved from
By the way, I am russian, but i did not knew that 'Bear chess' is
popular in Russia before :) .

Anonymous wrote on Fri, Mar 20, 2009 08:18 PM UTC:Good ★★★★
Did you guys know that another name for a Squirrel is the Bear .... in Bear Chess. It is popular in Russia.

H. G. Muller wrote on Mon, May 19, 2008 05:51 PM UTC:
I am currently engaged in a massive test effort to understand such short-range leapers. It is slow going, though: there are many possible combinations of moves, especially if you drop the requirement for 8-fold symmetry. And I need at least 400 games to get an acceptable accuracy for the empirical piece value of a ertain piece type. Even then, the statistical (random) error in the piece values is about 0.1 Pawn, if I test them in pairs (to double the effect of any value difference). Your estimate seems reasonable, from what I have learned so far. 8-fold-symmetric SR compound leapers with N moves seem to have a value close to (30+5/8*N)*N, in centiPawn. That would evaluate to 640 for the Squirrel. And I expect the Squirrel to be one of the stronger such compounds, with this number of moves, because of the 'front' of 5 contiguous forward moves.

Dan Davis wrote on Mon, May 19, 2008 05:05 PM UTC:
Does anyone rate these pieces?? I was thinking a squirrel might be worth
6.5 to 7.0 points -- similar to Grand Chess's Cardinal.

Agree? Disagree?

George Duke wrote on Sat, May 3, 2008 08:41 PM UTC:
(Knight + Dabbabah + Alfil) goes back to 1683 under many names. For example, Quintessential's Centurion.

Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Mon, Nov 14, 2005 04:02 AM UTC:
thanks for that link, i've been looking at leapers lately, until now i havn't really 'noticed' the knight/dabbaba much, it is a pretty strong piece in itself. i'm not surprised you can force mate with it .. so yeah, the squirrel is a strong piece obviously with added alfil power.

David Paulowich wrote on Fri, Nov 11, 2005 01:50 PM UTC:

has some interesting comments on the relative values of Rooks and other pieces - with the usual Kings on an 8x8 board. Ralph Betza (gnohman) states that the Knight+Dabbabah piece can force mate when the only other pieces on the board are the two Kings. Back before Zillions existed I also studied this (very tricky) piece and concluded that a Knight+Dabbabah piece is indeed sufficient mating material. This piece is one of Betza's 'Augmented Knights' - intended to be equal in value to a Rook. Clearly the Squirrel, which can move anywhere the Knight+Dabbabah can, is a more valuable piece.

David Lichtenstein wrote on Mon, Aug 1, 2005 03:34 PM UTC:Good ★★★★
In Ralph Betza's cspigs chess, this piece is worth six points.  I'm not
entirely sure that it is more powerful than a rook.  It can cut off large
swaths of board (effectively preventing a king from entering a collumn or
row), but I haven't played with it enough to be sure it is worth the six

For instance, if the opponent's 'King' was a royal knight rather than
royal commoner, the Squirrel would be somewhat less effective than a rook
in the endgame, wouldn't it?

Steve wrote on Sat, May 28, 2005 06:57 PM UTC:Good ★★★★
A fun little position, if I may.

  White- Ka2 Pa3,b2,c3
  Black- SQb5 Rg2 Pa4
 1...SQxc3 mate.
featuring a nice pin.

David Paulowich wrote on Sun, Aug 22, 2004 02:04 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Eric Greenwood has used this piece in his 84-square variant 'TamerSpiel', calling it the Champion.

Charles Gilman wrote on Mon, Mar 22, 2004 05:43 PM UTC:Good ★★★★
Here are some ideas for enlarged-move Squirrels. Some cover more ground over square cells, others use boards with different cells. <blockquote> Beaver (larger rodent of same sub-order): 3:0, 3:1, 3:2, and 3:3 combined leaper. </blockquote><blockquote> Hexirrel (Hex piece like Squirrel): Dabbaba combined with root 7 and root 12 leapers, on a hex board. </blockquote><blockquote> Cubirrel (Cubic extn. of Squirrel): Squirrel+Sexton(2:1:1)+Ninja(2:2:1)+Eunuch(2:2:2) on cubic-cell board. </blockquote><blockquote> Frairrel (Frame-only form of Cubirrel): Elephant+Ninja+Eunuch only on cubic-cell board. </blockquote>

Doug Chatham wrote on Sun, Jan 11, 2004 03:36 PM UTC:
Boris Badenov was a villian in an old American cartoon series called 'The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show'. The heroes were Bullwinkle, a talking moose, and Rocky, a talking flying squirrel.<p> So I doubt 'Badenov' gave his real name....

Charles Gilman wrote on Sun, Jan 11, 2004 10:10 AM UTC:Good ★★★★
In reply to Boris Badenov (is this his real name or a self-deprecating
pun?), the Moose moves like a Grasshopper
( but
turns through 45º during the hop. A Squirrel and Moose would indeed be an
interesting combination of a strong short-range piece and a restricted
long-range one.

Boris Badenov wrote on Tue, Aug 19, 2003 06:21 PM UTC:
But where is Moose? I must have Moose <b>and</b> Squirrel.

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