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Question on viewing past games[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, May 18 05:25 PM EDT in reply to wdtr2 from 12:35 PM:

one of the viewing button becomes a "@". There is an info message: "Lacking data to view this position. To view whole game, load in last move.".

This means you loaded the game from an earlier position instead of from the latest position. You might have done this accidentally by clicking the View button, which used to be the only way to navigate through the moves of a game. You should follow the instructions and load it from the latest position. Click on the >| button, then click on the View button. This will load the game at the last move, making all past moves accessible without the need to reload any of them.


wdtr2 wrote on Sat, May 18 12:35 PM EDT:

@Fergus OK, I wanted to review a past game of Xhess. I picked Wed dec 13 2017. 23 moves, the last move was a resgin. so far so good. I click orentation 2nd palyer on the drop down list box. I click go back to starting position. OK so far so good. Now the view buttons contain a ">" go to next move button. I click that. next move. good. I click again next move. good. I do this four times and one of the viewing button becomes a "@". There is an info message: "Lacking data to view this position. To view whole game, load in last move.". From that point on viewing moves becomes difficult. Can you view a prior past game of xhess and see if the view functionality is working as you like? thanks. Jim.


About jokers in large Board Games[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Apr 27 01:01 PM EDT in reply to Bob Greenwade from 12:54 PM:

:)


Bob Greenwade wrote on Sat, Apr 27 12:54 PM EDT in reply to Bn Em from 12:06 PM:

And of course, the big question: Why don't I have at least one Imitator piece in Unnecessarily Complicated Chess?

I need to go fix that.


Bn Em wrote on Sat, Apr 27 12:06 PM EDT in reply to Aurelian Florea from Fri Apr 26 01:29 AM:

I'm thinking that this is because there is not a lot of experience in games with jokers.

At least in my case that's very much the reason; in principle the dicussion is very interesting (especially since a game I've been thinking about would involve a closely‐related, if potentially even more powerful (though less apparently‐random) piece)

My impression is that jokers are a bit like Querquisites and Smess/Ivory‐Tower pieces, in that they depart substantially enough from normal Chess dynamics that they'd take a good bit of learning to handle. And in their particular case, the art of dealing with them is in part (principally?) the fact that they reduce the value of strong pieces, especially if well placed: you can't freely move the queen if there's a joker ready to copy its move while still being worth (on average, presumed — though of course this ‘chilling’ effect increases its value correspondingly to the powerful pieces on the board) less.

I'd be interested to see how Jokers handle in games with (a small number of) really powerful pieces. I'd almost predict that capturing the jokers to free the power pieces (with maybe some judicious moves by the latter in between either while the J is still hidden in the setup position, or to give check) would be an important middle‐game theme.

But in any case for now you're probably one of the people here with most experience with the J :‌)


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