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Topaz dezert by Yuthorpody, AKA neyuzzy
Thanks, I look into it soon!
But some hints to where I put my code and what that code should be are very welcomed.
I think the variable 'mln' gives you the current move number in the Post-Move sections. What you want is special treatment for the first few ('prelude') moves, and then the normal procedure possibly followed by gating when this would be required. So something like:
if == mln 0: ... // do what has to be done for the first prelude turn elsif == mln 2: ... // do what has to be done for the third prelude turn else: gosub HandleMove true; set waiting where #ori 0 -1; // square behind moved piece if not flag #ori and == 1 rank #ori != @ space #waiting: // virgin first-rank piece with something behind it add space #waiting #ori; // gate the piece empty #waiting; endif; endif;
You stil would have to suppress normal moves for the pieces waiting to be gated. I suppose the easiest way to do this define an alternative version of those that looks the same but does not have any moves, and put those on 0th rank. When its turn comes to be gated you then put the version with moves on the board.
Is it possible to make an Interactive Diagram use a hexagonal board?
The current standard scripts do not support that. The I.D. represents the board through a HTML table, and in theory it should be possible to create a table with a masonry-like tiling, shifting each subsequent rank by half a cell. This could be done by giving the first cell on each rank colspan 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., and all other cells colspan="2".
I have tried this, though, and it works to some extent. But for reasons that I do not grasp yet it also changes the height of the ranks in a way that I could not control.
Once the pieces are displayed on the hexagonal grid defined by the table, suppressing cell borders and coloring would allow display of a custom hexagonal board image as background.
When I go to any person information page and try to view game reviews, it says "$forpersonid is an unexpected variable and was not given a value".
The Official Glinski Coordinates preset has CSS rendering which isn't working right for hexagonal games
Is it possible to make an Interactive Diagram use a hexagonal board?
Whilst I'm not as hardline as Jean‐Louis regarding ‘Aanca’ (for better or worse, it did build up a small history of use for W‐then‐B and imo at least in the context of variants from that time retains a little validity), I fail to see the wisdom in compounding the confusion (especially with an already‐controversial name) by assigning it to yet a third (especially so closely‐related) piece. If not ‘Godzilla’ for Gryphon+Rhino, there's always Gilmanese ‘Gorgon’ (used also by Frolov)
That works for me. I'll go edit that note presently.
And once again... I'm dropping Aanka.
@ Bn Em
I'd forgotten I'd used Wazaba in 4 Kings Quasi-Shatranj (already published long ago), but I guess my feeling on that word changed later, when what I thought was something I preferred more came to my attention (i.e. Warmachinewazir).
It's a similar story with my long published Sac Chess CV, where I used 'Judge' instead of Centaur (subsequently I've sometimes, but fully aware, used the latter, i.e. when I am not inventing a CV that I see as a spinoff of Sac Chess). Unlike Jean-Louis I don't feel I need to always use the same name for pieces when they are in different CV inventions of mine.
I don't go as far as Seirawan and Harper, when they even named a Chancellor piece an Elephant (for their S-Chess invention), which I think may fly in the face of common CV convention for that animal.
Anyway, aside from now disliking Wazaba a bit, and liking Warmachinewazir a lot ('Battletank' is a single word noun that can be found online nowadays, if a precedent is wanted outside of [CVP published] Gilman), my biggest issue is that I would have to redo/undo a number of waiting submissions[5+2=7]/(settings files[2]), especially over a matter that seems arbitrary/debatable (and just a single name). Right now I don't always have a lot of stamina for such depressing re-tracing of my steps, though I do admire those with the energy/youth to keep doing it over and over again without even a whimper. :)
@Kevin:
I'd missed/forgotten that particular objection to Wazaba/Wazbaba, and I do agree that if you don't like it then you ought to be free to not use it (though my search for the ⟨Wazaba⟩ form did turn up your own 4 Kings Quasi-Shatranj, for what it's worth). Though for what it's worth, alternative piece names for Orthochess pieces rarely become less idiomatic English, and as H.G. notes it's not the proliferation of names as such that's the issue here
I think there were only four games (the four I left, for now, unpublished: Accelerated and Unaccelerated Constabulary/‐ble Chess/‐spiel) using this name, and only once each; the WMW Chess/‐spiel setting files are of course more unfortunate OK never mind, I forgot about WIP's, but even there besides the WMW games the only other usage seems to be in Bureau‐Spiel, so only 5 mentions total excluding eponymous games
I'm fairly sure the sometimes awkward names of some more obscure pieces are part of what turned people off M&B (though even then, under C I only spot Canvalander, Cardirider/‐lander/‐runner (of which the first as Cardinalrider is relatively uncontroversial), a couple of Camel‐ pieces (all relatively obscure), and Cbehemoth/Cbuffoon/Cmutilator for (cool but almost wilfully awfully‐named) Brook‐style pieces — more than average, sure, but he names more pieces at all than average and most of these are fairly obscure, used only by himself if at all). The criticism applies validly there too (with different mitigating factors)
Most 3‐word compounds in English (‘whatsoëver’, ‘notwithstanding’, ‘albeit’, ‘inasmuch’, ⁊c.) tend not to be nouns ;) Or much of anything except moderately obscure grammatical particles. And nor is it a productive way of producing new words; they're all lexical fossils of sorts
In any case I personally won't insist too hard on the name; it's clunky, and in apparently the majority opinion unnecessarily so, but you seem to be very keen to keep it for whatever reason and ultimately the freedom to pick names (at least up to generating confusion) does stand
@H.G.:
Wazbaba is Gilman's spelling; I'd never noticed that most others uses lack the first b (and had thus assumed Haru's was a typo). As a wazir–dabbaba portmanteau I definitely prefer it with both ⟨b⟩s myself
@Bob:
Whilst I'm not as hardline as Jean‐Louis regarding ‘Aanca’ (for better or worse, it did build up a small history of use for W‐then‐B and imo at least in the context of variants from that time retains a little validity), I fail to see the wisdom in compounding the confusion (especially with an already‐controversial name) by assigning it to yet a third (especially so closely‐related) piece. If not ‘Godzilla’ for Gryphon+Rhino, there's always Gilmanese ‘Gorgon’ (used also by Frolov)
@Jean‐Louis:
I think Betza's error in Bent Sliders was not so much one of interpretation as one of judgment ;) He knew perfectly well it was “Spanish for [the piece with English name] Gryphon”
That looks like my Viking up there. :)
I may make a logo for it with some of Tenniel's black and white illustrations from Through the Looking-Glass, though I'm open to other ideas.
I have now done that except that I cropped and divided one illustration instead of using two separate illustrations. Also, most of the small piece images I used are based on characters Alice encounters in Lewis Carroll's books.
It doesn't. I wouldn't understand how it moves without the interactive diagram. I'm thinking something like "moves to the squares (1,4) by making exactly three orthogonal and one diagonal step in any order, all in the same direction." Even that doesn't clearly exclude a move that only allows a single turn in the path
It would be easier if the vulture's description specified which paths it is allowed to follow. Maybe I'm the only one this is unclear to.
Hopefully the little bit of text I just added helps, at least a little.
It would be easier if the vulture's description specified which paths it is allowed to follow. Maybe I'm the only one this is unclear to.
false alarm : it was a cache issue
Thanks. I know you may be a little frustrated, and I apologize if you are, but it is an unfortunate truth of development for my more complex games that updating them can be quite laborious and tedious, especially when several options exist for playing them. As a general rule, I want my games to be well-thought out and high in quality, so I am willing to make changes like this to try and make my games better.
Check your rabbit in daiseireigi. they are promoted by default in stag.
Can you elaborate further on this, please? I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.
I did check the Running Rabbit in the diagram and the text, and everything seems to be in proper working order, including the text that shows the legal moves of the piece when clicked.
@Bob: "for your own part"? I don't know where you got that. I never saw this. I have seen "Godzilla" as compound of W-R and F-R. Here by Ivan Derzhanski.
I got it from combining the historical version with the (multilply repeated) erroneous version. You haven't seen this, because the only page I have it on is still Private (and probably will be for some time). And I'm very resistant to recognizing the name of a Copyrighted/Trademarked character as the "conventional" name for a piece.*
But I say "for my own part" because I don't expect anyone (at all) to follow along.
*Except, of course, when the piece predates the character, or the name is arrived at another way. Since the word gojira was literally coined for the first movie, the piece was clearly named for the character.
Done.
Check your rabbit in daiseireigi. they are promoted by default in stag.
I made one last change to Chu Seireigi, making the Lion move like its Cazaux form (a Chu Shogi Lion that lacks multi-move capabilities). If you could implement that on the biscandine site that would be great.
I'll even make it real simple for you on what you need to do. You'll need to go into your http://chu-seireigi-model.js and look for the Lion definitions (searching for "sh-lion should do"), which looks like this:
66: { name: 'lion-w', aspect: 'sh-lion', graph: this.cbDropGraph(geometry, [[-2,0],[-2,-1],[-2,-2],[-1,-2],[0,-2],[1,-2],[2,-2],[2,-1],[2,0],[2,1],[2,2],[1,2],[0,2],[-1,2],[-2,2],[-2,1]],[[1,1],[1,-1],[-1,1],[-1,-1]]), value: 10, abbrev: 'LN', fenAbbrev: 'N', initial: [{s:1,p:55}], demoted: 67, hand: 18, }, 67: { name: 'lion-b', aspect: 'sh-lion', graph: this.cbDropGraph(geometry, [[-2,0],[-2,-1],[-2,-2],[-1,-2],[0,-2],[1,-2],[2,-2],[2,-1],[2,0],[2,1],[2,2],[1,2],[0,2],[-1,2],[-2,2],[-2,1]],[[1,1],[1,-1],[-1,1],[-1,-1]]), value: 10, abbrev: 'LN', initial: [{s:-1,p:168}], demoted: 66, hand: 18, },
Set the Lions values to 11 and replace the current graph definitions with the following:
graph: this.cbDropGraph(geometry, [[-2,0],[-2,-1],[-2,-2],[-1,-2],[0,-2],[1,-2],[2,-2],[2,-1],[2,0],[2,1],[2,2],[1,2],[0,2],[-1,2],[-2,2],[-2,1],[1,1],[1,-1],[-1,1],[-1,-1],[1,0],[-1,0],[0,1],[0,-1]],[]),
Once that is done, the biscandine Jocly preset should play at least somewhat reasonably.
Since it's the featured variant for this month.
I quoted Bn Em's spelling ('Wazbaba') without checking if it needed correcting - evidently the error propagated from there.
On a personal note, my life will get a little busier soon, especially if I am lucky on the part-time employment front, so my CV contributing/commenting hobby may need to wait/(slow down) for a bit, or at least be less regular for a while. Then, there is getting a tooth yanked, perhaps this summer...
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@HG Muller & @Fergus Duniho
I have looked through the musketeer chess preset and recapped a bit of the programmer's guide. I have also tried a few things. But still I have no true clue on how to do the gating. Any help with clues is welcomed. Don't bother too much though. I know you guys are busy. But some hints to where I put my code and what that code should be are very welcomed.
@Bob: "for your own part"? I don't know where you got that. I never saw this. I have seen "Godzilla" as compound of W-R and F-R. Here by Ivan Derzhanski.
About the discussion on Aanca, if you search a litlle bit you will find, even on this site, for example just on our last month recognized game. Aanca is the word in medieval Spanish used to describe the anqa, a giant eagle preying elephants from the Persian tales, in the Libro de los juegos (1273), for Grant Acedrex, playing as F-R.
Murray (History of Chess, 1913) translated Aanca by Gryphon (which is not exactly the same monster), hence the name used by most chess variant lovers.
Betza made a mistake by misunderstanding Murray and called Aanca the W-R, not the F-R.
Aanca=Anqa=Gryphon as much as Rey=King, Peon=Pawn, Torre=Rook.
We do have a large choice of other names for W-R so there is no need to employ a word which results from a mistake.
I have seen the WD being called Wazaba, never Wazbaba.
The case which upsets me is Aanka used for W-then-B. But I will stop saying it. Now everyone knows this story and may decide whether it is a good idea or not to use this name. I am tired to argue with those who are purposely not understanding. They can call Aanka what they want, and why not call the Rook an Obispo if they like.
A fuller discussion would be better served elsewhere, but for my own part the Aanca is both W-B and F-R -- the compound of Manticore and Griffin.
Furthermore, I currently don't like the sound of Wazbaba somehow - call it a quirk of mine.
That's probably the most compelling reason of all to not use that name. (And remember, I happen to like the name quite a bit.)
My idea: because you call FA the Modern Elephant, I call WD the Modern Dabbaba, or better Modern War Machine.
I'm very tempted to call it a Washer/Dryer.
Concerning WD I call it War Machine, or simply Machine. Several decades ago (I'm a veteran), I was calling it War Machine as it is to the Dabbaba the same thing that (my) Elephant is to the Alfil (the translation vs the old Arabic word). Some are saying "Modern Elephant" to be explicit, so I would agree with Lev to say "Modern War Machine" or simply Modern Machine.
I think most of us can agree in principle that Modern War Machine can be conisdered the "conventional" name for the piece, even if other names are used to fit various themes and tastes. Even so, for this game, as much as I'd prefer to see it be the Wazbaba or MWM, I think Kevin's justified in leaving it as it is if he really, really wants to.
Glinski's Hexagonal Chess is the featured variant for May, 2024.
Hey! New month started!
Oh, right. I was focused on updating the color schemes. I should exercise now, but I'll remember to do this soon.
The color scheme code I was working on yesterday and into today is now on the site. As I mentioned before, it will now change the theme with JavaScript as long as JavaScript is enabled. This is done mainly as a backup for older browsers that do not support :has() in CSS. It uses both JavaScript and CSS to change the color scheme so that if one method fails, the other one might still work. Generally, the CSS method will fail on older browsers, and the JavaScript method will fail if someone has JavaScript disabled.
One new feature is the Print color scheme. This is a more minimalist version of the Light color scheme. I may make a logo for it with some of Tenniel's black and white illustrations from Through the Looking-Glass, though I'm open to other ideas. For now, it uses the same logos as the Light color scheme.
Internally, I have moved the color scheme CSS to colors.css, where it is better organized and more maintainable than before. First, it creates individual custom properties for each color in each color scheme. The light ones begin with --light-, the dark ones with --dark-, etc. Since it has to define each color scheme multiple times for different selectors, it defines them in terms of the individual custom properties already created. So if I decide to change a color, there is now only one place it has to be changed.
Also, this provides page authors with the ability to customize color schemes for a particular page. By adding a style section in which you add custom properties to :root, you can rewrite individual values for particular color schemes.
@Kevin: you say "Even Jean-Louis has written an inventor can feel free to choose their own names (at least when he does not mind too much :) )"
Well, I understand I might appear a bit psychorigid sometimes. But I'm not, except for 1 case. I do think that an inventor may choose the names he wants. I also think that an inventor should, by respect, do a small effort to know what others have done. And take it or not, but with knowledge.
The case which upsets me is Aanka used for W-then-B. But I will stop saying it. Now everyone knows this story and may decide whether it is a good idea or not to use this name. I am tired to argue with those who are purposely not understanding. They can call Aanka what they want, and why not call the Rook an Obispo if they like.
Concerning WD I call it War Machine, or simply Machine. Several decades ago (I'm a veteran), I was calling it War Machine as it is to the Dabbaba the same thing that (my) Elephant is to the Alfil (the translation vs the old Arabic word). Some are saying "Modern Elephant" to be explicit, so I would agree with Lev to say "Modern War Machine" or simply Modern Machine. .
Well, I just looked at Gilman's Man & Beast series (in CVP Piece Articles), say under letter C, alone, for precedents for concatenated names of 2+ words into just 1 word, and the guy was a veritable fountain about coining them. That's just for CVs alone, nevermind in the English language (e.g. 'Whatsoever' is 3 words concatenated). So thanks Daniel, but I don't think I feel the need to change just yet.
Would warmachine-wazir work? Then you wouldn't have to change anything else.
Well, for starters, if I surrender on this minor issue, I'll need to ask Fergus to somehow re-name two Settings Files I have that have Warmachinewazir as part of their names. Then I'll have to re-submit the same Rules Pages for them. Just to begin with. A lot of fuss over something that in the early days of chess variants no one would have objected to, I'd think. Maybe there are fussier people these days.
Will I have to go through this kind of grief, a third or a fourth time, because of some minor/debatable thing again? Why am I being singled out on such a matter that's surely happened before?
I don't think you get this criticism because you chose an uncommon name. It is mostly because it is such an awful name, which looks very un-English in multiple ways. I don't think you would have gotten many complaints if you had called it a Falaffel.
My idea: because you call FA the Modern Elephant, I call WD the Modern Dabbaba, or better Modern War Machine.
Hmmm
Well, it'd take a long time, maybe, to rename/re-submit all the pieces/(new submissions) where I used Warmachinewazir (which I still think sounds like a cool name, personally). Are most editors/members so sure that such an arbitrary thing as a single name being in dispute is so intolerable? I'm sure this sort of thing has happened before, with few batting an eyelash. Is it just my bad luck that the things I do people notice while rubbing them wrong way?
Regarding why not Wazbaba, see my earlier reply to Haru in this thread, which went: "I can see your reasoning, Haru. A possible issue for me is that some of these unorthodox pieces have more names that were given to them over the years than some of the other types in the group. I wanted to use certain names, but Kirin has only one name as far as I know, and thus waffle gets thrown out with the bathwater, if phoenix must therefore be used (which H.G. for one may not mind, but I have a variant idea named Waffle-Spiel and Phoenix-Spiel somehow didn't appeal to me as much as a name, for example). It may also at times be certain name(s) don't appeal to someone, for whatever reason, and why should they be 'forced' to use them, if they are 'paired' by name with a piece that has a given name that that person doesn't mind the sound of, again for whatever reason?
edit: standard chess itself may have similar issues. 'Castle' is a popular nickname for rook (at least among novices), and similarly 'horse' for knight, 'cleric' or 'prelate' for bishop, 'lady' for queen (perhaps) and 'royal pieces' is a nickname sometimes used for king and queen as a pair. You also can have an issue building an opening repertoire, say with Black - you may want to play the Nimzo-Indian (just one choice) vs. 1.d4, but if White plays 3.Nf3 or 3.g3 then you have more than one choice against each of those, and you may dislike that there aren't more options vs 3.Nc3 than the Nimzo-Indian that you like to play. Also, you may like to play 3.g3 Bb4+, but not 3.Nf3 Bb4+, even though 'logic' may suggest one should be played if the other is."
P.S. to Bn: Even Jean-Louis has written an inventor can feel free to choose their own names (at least when he does not mind too much :) ).
Furthermore, I currently don't like the sound of Wazbaba somehow - call it a quirk of mine.
Hey! New month started!
Thanks. It looks much better.
Very little succes s far though. This is what I have so far:
copied
...maybe different for those who keep up records on what is the Queen's English, if it's still called that now that Charles is King.
It would now be the King's English. Queens English is now spoken mainly by Fran Drescher.
I can go for Wazbaba as a name. It's fun to say! :)
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Reading over this again, I have to agree Warmachinewazir still sticks out as an incredibly clunky name; since you already have Ferfil for the piece whose image is named Elephantferz, why not the corresponding (albeit apparently thus far confined to Gilman) Wazbaba?
I have just read that thismove does not work in premove
All the more reason to not do anything there.
I have just read that thismove does not work in premove
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290. Threeleaper. This piece is one that I had assumed was purely a problemist's piece (or a piece used only as part of a compound, such as the Frog) until I learned that it apparently is used in a version of Tamerlane. Said version isn't on this site, so I don't know how well it works in practice, but given that it can only reach about 11% of the squares on a board (at most) it's probably not impressive.
Its move is simple: it leaps three squares orthogonally. (H)
Like I say, it can have some value; just not a lot. (Still, I was surprised when I found that I hadn't already posted it.)
Such a straightforward piece deserves a straightforward model. (And of course you can easily imagine what the Fourleaper and Fiveleaper would look like!)