Comments by CBagleyJones

Why is the 'Heavenly Tetrarch' trivial?!

Oh, I had downloaded the zrf and looked at it on zillions, if it isn't clear in description, it should be made clear lol.

Good work pointing that out.

Hi, sorry HaruN Y, I didn't notice you can click on them.

Alright, so it appears Charles Gilman talked about the Zerdinal and Tribune in 2008.

Aurelian Florea then used the Zerdinal, calling it 'Sangoma' in 'Grand Apothecary Chess-Modern' in 2021 and Bob Greenwade also used this piece, calling it 'Kuhani' in 'Short Sliders (and the Leapers Who Love Them)' in 2023.

As for the Tribune, unless there is a game from Charles he used it in, 'Camelopard Chess' could be the Tribune's first appearance in a game.

And for the Camelopard, 'Camelopard Chess' seems still to be the first game this piece has played in.

Oh, and thanks all for the info!!

Nice to see a game with the Locust in it and it's a great idea too, well done.

Information I have on this piece is ...

G. P. Jelliss invented a game called 'Twenty-First Century Chess' in 1991. In this game there is a piece that moves as a Bishop and Nightrider. Also in this game is a piece that moves as Rook and Nightrider.

See 'Variant Chess 6' April-June 1991, page 70. (This is a different game from Karl Munzlinger's game of the same name).

Unsure when he first invented the actual name 'Banshee', but the piece is there in his game. Dang it, now I'll have to research when he first used the name!! Link to how you can see 'Variant Chess 6' and other chess publications here ..

https://www.mayhematics.com/p/p.htm

edit>>> See this link here, by George Jelliss in 2002, 'Variant Chess Games' where the game is described and the name 'Banshee' is used (and 'Raven' for Rook + Nightrider) for his 1991 game. Look under 'T' for 'Twenty-first Century Chess'.

https://www.mayhematics.com/v/gg.htm#A

There will be a part 2, not too far away, believe it or not!!

In the description of the pieces it says ...

The 'Shikari' Master of the wilderness. Combines Knight and Alfil (AN).

However, if you look at the Zillions zrf file for this game, done by Peter Aronson, the 'Shikari' moves like a Knight and Dabbaba, the graphic for it is in the style of a 'knight dabbaba' too.

Anyone have info on this, it's interesting because, if this piece is actually a 'knight alfil' combination, it appears to have come just before 'Outback Chess' which has a knight alfil piece, but only days before amazingly, going by webpage date created. They have both come out about the same time.

They both seem to be the earliest use of this piece in a game, the Knight Alfil was mentioned by J.P. Jelliss, in his 'Theory of Moves', 4 January 2001. He called it a 'Hospitaler'

The piece has been around for awhile, the earliest info i have on it is ...

Knight-Fers and Knight-Alfil tours were first given by Abu-Bakr Muhammad ben Yahya as-Suli, born circa 880, died 946 ad. They are reproduced in numerical form in H.J.R.Murray's 'A History of Chess' 1913, p.336.

Ahh ok, thanks Fergus, interesting to know, much earlier than I thought. Thank heavens Wikipedia wasn't wrong lol.

Jean-Louis, thanks for your great info on the Amazon!! Some of your details should be added to the page, but, it is in the comments now, at least. You really are a great wealth of knowledge on chess pieces, thanks!!

I have always thought this game was first created in 1996 by Ralph Betza, however, I notice Wikipedia says this ..

Chess with different armies (or Betza's Chess[1] or Equal Armies[2]) is a chess variant invented by Ralph Betza in 1979.

Is that right.

It says here ..

'The Amazon was invented (but not under this name) in the middle ages'.

So, where is this info from, do we know the name of it when it was invented.

Also, it appears with the list of games from earliest on record here, first game mentioned is 'Amazon Chess' from Middle Ages, and it is called an 'Amazon'.

Anyways, just wondering if we know the first name given to it.

Hi everyone, hope you are all fine and well.

Alright, I see I actually said 12 years ago nearly that Part 2 would be out soon, so, omg, I'm so sorry, no excuses, I'm just sorry about that ok!!

Let me just say, 'Part 2' will be coming out. Over the years, work has been done on it. I went through the A to Z of games on this site, so many games, so many different Fairy pieces!! At time's I had to stop, it was overwhelming, so much info, in so many diff places stored on my computer, lol, did I go insane at diff points of time, I think I did!!

I do have time now to work on things, and I am. The problem also was, Part 2 is so big it can't be done in one release. It's like a monster, but I think I know how to do it, it will be done in parts, like, 'Fairy Pieces Part 2, Volume 1'. That is the only way. I will get back to you soon (lol) about when I think it will happen.

Oh, Bob, I see you said 'I don't know where Part 2 would draw its material, but I'd love to see more!'

Part 2 is Fairy pieces from everywhere around the world OUTSIDE of Japan, so, just not Shogi pieces, everything else, meaning, so many pieces of course.

Last thing for now, I have noticed that when I stopped doing Part 1 it was cause of the size of the file, 154 pieces, I actually think there could be a 'Fairy Pieces Part 1, Volume 2' release, but I can't get distracted on that right now.

Alright, just will check Part 2 from what I have right now and work out when it can be done!!

Oh, and thanks must go to Byrne Takeshita here on chessvariants for getting me to feel enlivened to do this!! Thanks so much!!

I think that promotion rule is the greatest promotion rule of all time lol. That sword you speak of doesn't worry me, that sword is always over my head anyways, if I'm playing a game or not too hehe.

Oh, thanks everyone for fixing the page up, thanks so much.

H.G. said ...

I think this page is also misrepresented in the index: it is mainly a rule description; that it also happens to contain a link to a Zillions file is coincidental.

Yes, you are right, I did this page ages ago and for some reason never did a proper game page, and then it got all these nice comments and I just left it like it is. Maybe sometime I could write a proper game page and add if you want to comment on the game to do it on the 'download the game' page, I dunno lol.

Hi Gerd, hope your fine and well. I'm sure you haven't upset or hurt anyone!! I understand what you said, and it is extremely interesting idea indeed how you describe your game about the board etc.

I don't want to go on about the pawns, but still, I have to say, the game would maintain your 'theme' even if the pawns remained pawns. However, the game as you have it must have a unique feel and play to it!

Would be fun to see the game in action.

Should play well, it's nice to see you didn't 'overpower' it.

It is an interesting idea, though in it's form right now, I think Greg is right, would be hard to see many moves ahead, and also his comment about the pawns.

Pawns make a barrier, they hold the game together, stabilize it. The game would have to be play tested. I feel the game could be good without the pawns being able to change. Pawns should always be pawns, like the King always a King.

But hey, it's your game and I could be completely wrong!! Interesting idea you have, well done.

Well, this is kinda weird lol. I notice I am listed as creating the zrf for this game. I'm pretty sure I did not lol. At the 'zillions of games' site is says this ...

Game: Abagoren Chess

Invented 1844 Implemented by Malcolm Webb, 2013-01-19.

No idea why this game is listed in my info!!

Thanks Ben, great work, and the zip would work, all is good.

Hi all, thought I would say, from very soon till Christmas and the New Year I should be releasing a few games.

There is a Joy Joyce game, there is a few Charles Gilman games, and I have a game I have done myself, which probably will be the first to come out, and another game by myself that may have some new pieces, amazingly, I say amazingly because they are pretty simple pieces but I cannnot see anywhere that they have been used in any games, but I guess we shall see. I'm sure people will know if they exist elsewhere or not.

Thanks ya'll.

Hello, sorry, but I asked 2 weeks ago if someone could fix this download link, it doesn't work, is anyone able to do it.

Hi, am I doing something wrong with this game and Grand Shatranj with updating the zip files, it says above it now 'updated' but the zip files are the same still. I went to 'upload or manage files' and deleted old zip file, then uploaded new zip and clicked on 'keep'. This is for this zip here and Grand Shatranj.

Hi, I've updated this game because of error in 'help', with the Pawn info it said promotion on 8th to 10th ranks instead of 9th to 10th. The error is just in info, not actual ingame play.

When you click on the 'Hero' at a1, it can go to c4, and also the War Elephant on d2 can go to f1.
This isn't right is it.

I do not know if there is a game with Dabbabarider Fers piece, possible but yeah, I'm not sure. I can't recall seeing one myself.

I never meant for you to change name, I was just giving info. I understand though you might want to change, and Lame Duck is interesting name!!

If I do see a game with the piece I'll let you know.

Yes, I clicked on that link and it downloaded ChessV2.3RC1.zip.

Sorry, been away for a bit.

This download link doesn't work again sorry.

Joe, i'm blaming you!!

This download link doesn't work for some reason.

I can't get that download link to work.

I mean the link to download ChessV 2.3 verison

Also, when i go to your ChessV.org site, on mainpage, I just see the 2.2 version.

Sorry if I have done something wrong with the download of the zip file, but it doesn't appear to be working, getting error.

lol, ok submitted again.

I'm going to play a game or two of this game on game courier if possible, I notice your comments about this game Kevin, if you want a game you can send me invite, i'll play the black and green side!!

Link is here, i'm giving the link because it is spelt 'chatarunga', not the usual way.

https://www.chessvariants.com/play/pbm/play.php?game=4-Handed+Chatarunga&settings=4-handed%20chat%201.00

Of course, if we play this game, we are playing with double mate rules that is on this page :)

Oh, if anyone else wants a game, send me an invite, i'll play the black green pieces.

Oh, I see with the site being down recently some stuff was lost, like my game courier game with Carlos I had to redo a move I already had done. I posted here before it went down about releasing a zrf for this game, and i uploaded the game and some screenshots for the download page, should I do that again.

Hi, when i click on 'what's new' and then 'last game courier move' i get

The Chess Variant Pages: 404 Error - Page not found Welcome to the Chess Variant Pages, a site about games related to, based on, or similar enough to Chess.

We're sorry, but the page https:/​/​www.chessvariants.com/​pbm/​logs.php could not be found.

This page is not listed in our database. The URL may be misspelled, the page may have been removed or renamed, or the page may have never existed.

Here are other pages with the filename of /logs.php:

play/pbm/logs.php

ok, when i click on that i am starting to see games, there is 4 there right now

Heya all, I see Charles Gilman hasn't logged in since 2016, is he still around, still with us. Thanks.

Hi Kevin, yes, I'm having a fun game of Sky with Carlos at the moment. I see your playing Joe at Great Shatranj, good luck there, hope you win lol. I'm joking, hope you both draw hehe. I see it's a close game.

I do notice though, the HightPriestess (alfil knight fers) could have a more precise graphic, the one like you using now but has the fers symbol on it. Also, the Warmachine (dabbaba wazir) or Wazaba piece could have a more precise piece graphic too, the one with wazir symbol on it. But it's all ok if you know what is happening.